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    Originally Posted by Bottter View Post
    i´ve tested 2.1.7 on training dummy and sometimes i just stay there with full energy and the profile casts only rake and trash on omen of clarity procc
    Who cares about dummies? I like dungeons at least

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    how to Disable Cd's, previous version you click Cd's manual
    now its automatic.

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    Open it up in rotation editor and take whatever you want out. Our add whatever you want in.

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    thanx alot

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    I don't know where it could be or how it could be doing it, but I believe I might have some kind of bug in with DoC and when your not using DOC or I just have my profile built around DoC to much lol. I had switched to Natures Vigil and for the life of me, the burst was great, but the sustained DPS sucked major balls. I could not get the rotation to stay anywhere near my sustained damage of 77k with DoC. It could be that Natures vigil is that bad or again, bugs in the rotation.

    If anyone has any thoughts on it and want to help or know if Natures Vigil is that bad, let me know through here or PM and I will see what I can do. All my tests were on the bosses in Heart of Fear first half LFR because Queue times were at 3minutes for me.

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    Meant to ask this already for some time (forgot :P)
    What are the numbers it's posting in chat after you start the rotation?

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    Originally Posted by LiquidAtoR View Post
    Meant to ask this already for some time (forgot :P)
    What are the numbers it's posting in chat after you start the rotation?
    That's for the frame cool downs I never got implemented. Truthfully, I don't think their needed as druids only have 1 rotation for their CDs and that's to pop them all at once when berserk is up lol. There mainly there for looks per se

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    I don't know where it could be or how it could be doing it, but I believe I might have some kind of bug in with DoC and when your not using DOC or I just have my profile built around DoC to much lol. I had switched to Natures Vigil and for the life of me, the burst was great, but the sustained DPS sucked major balls. I could not get the rotation to stay anywhere near my sustained damage of 77k with DoC. It could be that Natures vigil is that bad or again, bugs in the rotation.

    If anyone has any thoughts on it and want to help or know if Natures Vigil is that bad, let me know through here or PM and I will see what I can do. All my tests were on the bosses in Heart of Fear first half LFR because Queue times were at 3minutes for me.
    I assume its because as you get higher gear the 6% static buff to your main stats gets larger. Essentially speaking in 500+ ilvl you will be getting way more than when you were 463 gear. Assuming you are about 500 ilvl you should be near or around 17000+ agility. 6% of that is roughly over 1000 agility, or 3-5 gems worth of agility. And since its passive you get it the entire fight. Personally I think natures vigil is a little weak for a final tier talent. but 10% increase in dmg every 1.5 mins just doesn't outweigh 6% passive agility, especially the more geared you are.
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    Do people use HoW regularly in a raid setting? The only time I have ever used it was when I tried it out on Elegon. It requires completely different reforging from SotF/DoC and NV/Inc builds if you plan on using HoW for anything other than the passive buff. And everything I read in 5.1 put it at the bottom dps gain out of the three tiered choices. Not sure if this has changed with 5.2 or not.

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    Originally Posted by cukiemunster View Post
    Do people use HoW regularly in a raid setting? The only time I have ever used it was when I tried it out on Elegon. It requires completely different reforging from SotF/DoC and NV/Inc builds if you plan on using HoW for anything other than the passive buff. And everything I read in 5.1 put it at the bottom dps gain out of the three tiered choices. Not sure if this has changed with 5.2 or not.

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    Still the same. HotW is dead last with NV right with it and DoC pulling 2k more DPS if used right.

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    Still the same. HotW is dead last with NV right with it and DoC pulling 2k more DPS if used right.

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    Not sure where you are getting this information, but in 5.2 raiding HotW will outperform due to mechanics in the fight. You might also check out EJerks for the 5.2 priorities. 5.1 stuff had doc at the top because the scaling on agi wasn't enough to outweigh but 5.2 HotW will outperform in almost all new raid content with a few fights DoC coming out on top aka situational. Technically is it better? Yes in a dummy fight where you are always next to the boss it wouldn't surprise me for DoC to outperform. But even using your wonderful profile most of the new raid bosses i've done (4 so far) all did better with HotW, (switched between wipes) plus not to mention the utility function saved a wipe or two.
    Last edited by Aleksonfire; 03-12-2013 at 04:44 PM.
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    This is very interesting. I just went through the top parsing cats on WoL for ToT, and indeed 90% of them are running SotF/HotW for the agi buff only. Nobody seems to actually use it for the balance attacks. Although I can see where HotWicane could come in handy for adds like Horridon. I ranked top 6th 25man Magera last night(still in the top 25 as of this post) using a modified version, so I am interested to see what HotW would do.

    EDIT: Hmmm, Simulationcraft still shows SotF/DoC as top dps with t15 heroic gear, so not sure why HotW seems to be the flavor this week. Unless DoC pulls ahead again with heroic gear, but I would think that HotW will only pull further ahead with better gear. Also ofc I know simcraft numbers could be wrong, its only 1 week into the patch. http://simulationcraft.org/520/Raid_T15H.html
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    Yeah I've found that too, its interesting. Doc does a ton of healing throughout longer fights. For those interested for primordious the kite oozes around the room starts, you funerals benefit from hotw because killing adds at beginning have a lot of health and don't need dots, just harder hits really, and that profile doesn't account for the buffs received as everytime you can receive different buffs. I I will report back with some thoughts and ideas of using hotw on other fights next week most likely, or if I got do CFR again to see if it is better in some fights since I did progression 8/12 onusing DoC till primordious.

    Curious, when using doc, does it choose to heal whoever is lowest or say a specific person, say if I wanted it to heal ny focus target on taa tank

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    Originally Posted by monopoly8 View Post
    Yeah I've found that too, its interesting. Doc does a ton of healing throughout longer fights. For those interested for primordious the kite oozes around the room starts, you funerals benefit from hotw because killing adds at beginning have a lot of health and don't need dots, just harder hits really, and that profile doesn't account for the buffs received as everytime you can receive different buffs. I I will report back with some thoughts and ideas of using hotw on other fights next week most likely, or if I got do CFR again to see if it is better in some fights since I did progression 8/12 onusing DoC till primordious.

    Curious, when using doc, does it choose to heal whoever is lowest or say a specific person, say if I wanted it to heal ny focus target on taa tank
    Its a choice of who has the lowest percentage of Health compared to the player. If no one is below the players Percentage, then it will cast it on the player before the free Healing Touch Buff goes away.

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    Thought I would post this little meter. Looks like the latest build is doing pretty damn good on Garalon, at least better than it was a few builds back

    Ferocious Bite is finally working as planned and doing some DAMN good DPS on those legs, which was all I was attacking


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