PQR - Rotation Bot

[vitalic]

I appreciate your PQI code by the way Bubba, just looking at integrating PQI into my own profiles and having not the first clue about it until now your code has kind of helped me understand the potential approaches. I want to provide backwards compatibility so PQI isn't a requirement, but I don't like the idea of maintaining two config tables. I'm thinking of maybe calling a generic self-contained function to retrieve an option value which returns the PQI value if the addon is loaded or a default from my config table if not. I don't like the overhead of calling a function as opposed to accessing a global variable, but it seems like a reasonable trade-off for the increased maintainability.

[jshookz]

I'd figure this is the PQR thread I could post this. I was on my lock doing 2v2's and we beat two guys in arena and they happened to be on my server. They accused me of cheating by saying "Nice auto spell lock, etc,etc." and said they reported me. I replied with "Ever heard of mouseover macro's and focus keybinds"? Then he was talking about how shit I was lol I think he was just mad.

Will anything happen to me? I'm still gonna use PQR because it's awesome and if a GM messages me I'm just gonna say it was my mouseover's and amazing reflexes Hope there's not a way for them to detect PQR being used. Thanks guys

[firepong]

I'd figure this is the PQR thread I could post this. I was on my lock doing 2v2's and we beat two guys in arena and they happened to be on my server. They accused me of cheating by saying "Nice auto spell lock, etc,etc." and said they reported me. I replied with "Ever heard of mouseover macro's and focus keybinds"? Then he was talking about how shit I was lol I think he was just mad.

Will anything happen to me? I'm still gonna use PQR because it's awesome and if a GM messages me I'm just gonna say it was my mouseover's and amazing reflexes Hope there's not a way for them to detect PQR being used. Thanks guys

For the moment, it is not on Blizzards radar, so I would say you have little chance of getting banned. Now if you have used HonorBuddy or anything like that, then you might be in trouble.

But imo, this is why I don't use Bots in PvP. Most of the people that play PvP take it to damn seriously and get butthurt when they get beat. You don't see that in PvE.

[jshookz]

For the moment, it is not on Blizzards radar, so I would say you have little chance of getting banned. Now if you have used HonorBuddy or anything like that, then you might be in trouble.

But imo, this is why I don't use Bots in PvP. Most of the people that play PvP take it to damn seriously and get butthurt when they get beat. You don't see that in PvE.

Haha no honorbuddy for me just some warlock PVP profiles. I think I'm good though. Yeah PVP'ers...lol

[vitalic]

For the moment, it is not on Blizzards radar, so I would say you have little chance of getting banned. Now if you have used HonorBuddy or anything like that, then you might be in trouble.

But imo, this is why I don't use Bots in PvP. Most of the people that play PvP take it to damn seriously and get butthurt when they get beat. You don't see that in PvE.

If I was playing legit and someone was interrupting me before my castbar even appeared I'd be annoyed too. I think people have to be smart about the way they configure their profiles (especially in PvP), and that includes authors not pre-configuring their profiles to do obviously hackish things like interrupting after 0.01 seconds, especially considering the more people who complain about it the more likely Blizzard are to try and crack down.

[paintpauller]

Haha no honorbuddy for me just some warlock PVP profiles. I think I'm good though. Yeah PVP'ers...lol

you should check out my interrupt profile. it has a random delay on interrupting along with some SERIOUS In-Game options with PQI that allow you to do some cool things like set the min and max delay a max and min percentage delay list of spells to not interrupt a list of spells to ignore the delay and interrupt with a set delay and some added units which include mouseover, boss, and BG along with the standard target, focus, and arena. and everything can be turned on, off, and updated while ingame! and if you prefer not to use PQI it supports that too and all default settings can be changed in the profiel.

hope this helps you to not get called out as much in PVP =D
-Paint

[iceymot]

does that interrupt interfere with a profile using PQI as well?

[Maxitor]

Maxitor, I think you're missing the point about how add-ons operate and what PQInterface actually does. The add-on will not get you banned simply because it's only reading and writing data injected into WoW by the PQR program. When you load PQR and initiate a profile, PQRs state and injected variables is picked up by the add-on and "written" as sa ed variables, then fed back to the client and again read by PQR

It's only operating under the extreme tight parameters already set by Blizzard that all add-ons use. You'd find yourself as likely to be banned by using PQInterface as you would using BigWigs or DeadlyBossMods.

I'd go into further analysis and explanations of how add-ons operate, their restrictions and what's going on behind the scenes, but I fear that it would only cause confusions. (I'm a Computional and Systems Biology major at UCLA, I've also read both the UELA and ToS amongst several Lua programming books and books directly aimed towards developing add-ons for World of Warcraft.)

I'm as paranoid about losing my account as anyone, especially my old account which has all my progress from Vanilla. D:

But I do understand where you're coming from in regards to the absurdly long variable names. When I'm done with updating my profiles I'll write up a function translator that short-hands PQIs variables to something of the users choosing and sets default values to those variables in case PQI is undesired. =)

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Just some simple questions as asnwer: How hard is it to list loaded addons on the user's side? Who would load PQInterface? What are the chances that a "legit and innocent" user has PQInterface loaded without knowing what it is for and what PQR is. The risk is not the addon's way of working the risk is the addon itself. Yup i can start to rename everything to LegitAddon and rewrite the profiles. I think it would be hard to convience anyone that i loaded it accidently. As i said before i am using it too but i still believe that it is an additional weakness unless you can tell me for sure that there is no way to see from the server side (or even "download" my whole addon folder) what addons i am using i keep being paranoid.

P.S. i admit that i do not know anything about the legal side of this what is allowed and what is not allowed to do for Blizz and yup i am a little bit light-minded when it comes to EULA, TOS and such.

[Maxitor]

If I was playing legit and someone was interrupting me before my castbar even appeared I'd be annoyed too. I think people have to be smart about the way they configure their profiles (especially in PvP), and that includes authors not pre-configuring their profiles to do obviously hackish things like interrupting after 0.01 seconds, especially considering the more people who complain about it the more likely Blizzard are to try and crack down.

From one game it is hard to decide whether the opponent is cheating or not. Non delayed interrupts can go unpunished as well if you are not playing on 2k+ or against the same opponents continously.

[paintpauller]

does that interrupt interfere with a profile using PQI as well?

no it does not, when multiple PQI pages get loaded (from loading multiple profiles with PQI in one sitting, loading a interrupt profile with PQI and a rotation, or the profile has multiple PQI configs) you can select which one to view at the top via the arrows or i think its right clicking brings a drop down menu.

short answer it will work fine with any profile, PQI or not

[Kinky]

@Maxitor: Blizzard is not allowed to do that. Even if they could they would be breaking half a dozen Privacy laws. I won't convince you that it's 100% safe to use as it seems you've already made up your mind about it, but the add-on isn't doing anything illegal, even if it's used for things breaking the TOS. The same can be said for any add-on out there too if you start reading the data they transmit between the client and server too, as they operate in the exact same way. Read/Write data to your saved variables, some listen to combat tracker (log) some make timers.

All of this is available to PQR by simply calling or fetching the vars and functions they transmog. =) I can try and post some examples later today!

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[Maxitor]

@Maxitor: Blizzard is not allowed to do that. Even if they could they would be breaking half a dozen Privacy laws. I won't convince you that it's 100% safe to use as it seems you've already made up your mind about it, but the add-on isn't doing anything illegal, even if it's used for things breaking the TOS. The same can be said for any add-on out there too if you start reading the data they transmit between the client and server too, as they operate in the exact same way. Read/Write data to your saved variables, some listen to combat tracker (log) some make timers.

All of this is available to PQR by simply calling or fetching the vars and functions they transmog. =) I can try and post some examples later today!

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So basicly you mean that Blizz is not allowed to read out their own game client's data to check what kind of addons you are using in their game?

As i said i am totally clueless about this i have read a lot of things so far like they can not scan your Windows processes or scan outside of the memory area of WoW. Anyway it would be strange to me as the developer of my own game i would not be allowed to check for game parameters (addons, computer specifications etc.) but i am not a lawyer.

All in all i wanted to point out the simple fact that having PQInterface loaded should be a sign of cheating if they are allowed to read your ingame addons what does not have anything to do about the way PQIterface works.

Holding a gun (PQI) even though it is not loaded (PQR is not loaded) in the post office / bank would have its consequences. (I could nto come up with a better example from irl sorry

P.S. I think we should continue this in PMs because i don't want to hijack the thread or frighten anyone.

[CodeMyLife]

So basicly you mean that Blizz is not allowed to read out their own game client's data to check what kind of addons you are using in their game?

As i said i am totally clueless about this i have read a lot of things so far like they can not scan your Windows processes or scan outside of the memory area of WoW. Anyway it would be strange to me as the developer of my own game i would not be allowed to check for game parameters (addons, computer specifications etc.) but i am not a lawyer.

All in all i wanted to point out the simple fact that having PQInterface loaded should be a sign of cheating if they are allowed to read your ingame addons what does not have anything to do about the way PQIterface works.

Holding a gun (PQI) even though it is not loaded (PQR is not loaded) in the post office / bank would have its consequences. (I could nto come up with a better example from irl sorry

P.S. I think we should continue this in PMs because i don't want to hijack the thread or frighten anyone.

Its rather simple. You bought the game and installed it on your computer. Its your data not theirs.

Privacy bro. They could do it but they would break laws and they already paid a couple millions for doing it so they probly would not mess with it again.

Personally I've been using bots for 3 years.. Never had a single susp.

[WWF]

new build, new offsets, old problem, Xelper SOS!

[artyom777]

still dont work ((


new profile and nothink((