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    Can anyone explain why it needs to connect to the MMOLazy server to work? If its not auto updated or anything i dont see the reason for this.

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    Originally Posted by jm68 View Post
    Dude, just cause he once wrote a program, hes not obligated to update it forever and ever for you. Especially since he's working on new projects. These bots need to be updated every patch, and it's fairly pretencious of you to expect him to continue updating a free bot because you put bought a 2nd account.

    This bot is super impressive, unlike the HonorBuddy i spent 30$ on. And for that reason I have no problem coughing up 10$ for the new version of this. You should feel the same.
    Not saying he was obligated to continue to update it forever. If you market something as a free product you should not suddenly start charging for it though because people extend developers of free products a lot more opportunity and courtesy BASED on that. So you can take advantage of that kindness and capitolize on it by changing your intension. Which I happen to think is wrong and dishonest.

    Does he have a product worth paying for? Sure.. Is his price reasonable? Certainly.. Did I plan to buy a subscription for his pay version "Ruby"? I did actually .. What do I have a problem with then? (pay attention genious) I have a problem with how he went about ending the 'free' version and how he gained his audience by deceiving websites that would have otherwise charged him to advertise had it been a pay for use product. He effectively got endorsement, no cost advertising and a team of beta testers for his pay product until he was ready for retail and then pulled what is suppose to be the free product off line (even though it still works just fine, there's been no updates to Warden Mem scan algorithm immediately before after the bot was taken offline. It was obviously taken off line in order to boost sales for 'Ruby', not because it stopped working.

    Get it?

    ---------- Post added at 02:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 AM ----------

    Originally Posted by matimati View Post
    Can anyone explain why it needs to connect to the MMOLazy server to work? If its not auto updated or anything i dont see the reason for this.
    I can - It's so he can do what he's done - stop you from using it when his retail product is ready for release in order to boost sales. I think it's now obvious that this was not a free product like he claimed, it was a marketing tool for a pay for use product he was having us beta test for him. Prove me wrong...

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    Originally Posted by powerflex View Post
    Not saying he was obligated to continue to update it forever. If you market something as a free product you should not suddenly start charging for it though because people extend developers of free products a lot more opportunity and courtesy BASED on that. So you can take advantage of that kindness and capitolize on it by changing your intension. Which I happen to think is wrong and dishonest.

    Does he have a product worth paying for? Sure.. Is his price reasonable? Certainly.. Did I plan to buy a subscription for his pay version "Ruby"? I did actually .. What do I have a problem with then? (pay attention genious) I have a problem with how he went about ending the 'free' version and how he gained his audience by deceiving websites that would have otherwise charged him to advertise had it been a pay for use product. He effectively got endorsement, no cost advertising and a team of beta testers for his pay product until he was ready for retail and then pulled what is suppose to be the free product off line (even though it still works just fine, there's been no updates to Warden Mem scan algorithm immediately before after the bot was taken offline. It was obviously taken off line in order to boost sales for 'Ruby', not because it stopped working.

    Get it?

    ---------- Post added at 02:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 AM ----------



    I can - It's so he can do what he's done - stop you from using it when his retail product is ready for release in order to boost sales. I think it's now obvious that this was not a free product like he claimed, it was a marketing tool for a pay for use product he was having us beta test for him. Prove me wrong...
    Holy shit, it is HIS code. I don't care how much he's "decieving" you. It's a bot for an illegal service, not an auto-dialer for 911 if you're having a stroke..

    He is not charging anyone for his current bot, we don't even know if he is discontinuing it. Yet you're here crying a damn river.

    If he DOES charge people for his new bot, and stops updating the free one... there's nothing wrong with that. That's called discontinuing an old project. Get over it.

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    Originally Posted by jm68 View Post
    Holy shit, it is HIS code. I don't care how much he's "decieving" you. It's a bot for an illegal service, not an auto-dialer for 911 if you're having a stroke..

    He is not charging anyone for his current bot, we don't even know if he is discontinuing it. Yet you're here crying a damn river.

    If he DOES charge people for his new bot, and stops updating the free one... there's nothing wrong with that. That's called discontinuing an old project. Get over it.
    I totally agree. It's HIS code and he decides on his own what he want to do with it. It's just a deluxe product which is free and kinda destroys the economy because everyone uses it. As you said, if he stops updating this there is nothing wrong with it..

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    All i care about is that ruby comes out real soon, like tomorrow. Actually if ruby came out tomorrow i couldn"t even buy it til i got paid on the 1st. Which means im reduced to actually farming myself. (parish the thought) . If anything we dont even know if this is some sorta bug or something, like it said a few post ago this bot has gone offline before. All we can do is sit n wait for juju to say something or post us up on a new link to ruby.

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    Didn't even know he had a new project! I'll be paying for it if it has a higher capability for earning gold than the current. anyone have a link with any suspected details?

    nvm flipped a page a found it

    I still see no reason why everyone is getting angry over it. It's a free bot, no something that's owed to you. If someone leveled you a couple levels for free would you expect a deadline? Which is ironic because sgather leveled me from 80-85 :P
    Last edited by EqualizeIt; 03-21-2011 at 05:12 AM.

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    MMOLAZY, to the next step! - MMOLAZY, une nouvelle étape!
    Hi !

    Due to the recent huges inscriptions, our server was overloaded.

    We have bought a brand new server, with high end specs :

    Dual XEON i7 8x 2.00+ GHz
    24Go ram
    1 Gbps
    SSD hard drive


    During the server move, you gonna experience troubles with mmolazy products (ShadowBot, updater and WHack)


    ETA : 12Hours
    found this on the mmolazy.eu site. this is probably the problem in the sgather bot right now, and it was posted about 10-11 hours ago so... hopefully up and running soon.

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    I'm not too torn up about it being offline, but I can see people's point of view that are annoyed about it going from free to paid. It is a common tactic that companies use when offering a subscription service; offer it initially for free, build up a customer base and then switch it to a paid service. It does seem dishonest to me, but what's that mean coming from a botter? Besides, it's hard to make a buck anymore without being a little bit dishonest.

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    I think we all need to take a moment of silence to mourn the greatest free gathering bot of our era. R.I.P. Free SGather.

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    Wont it come back?

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    Originally Posted by Sleepwlker View Post
    I think we all need to take a moment of silence to mourn the greatest free gathering bot of our era. R.I.P. Free SGather.
    Amen.

    He best update this.

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    anyway found this on the site..
    Originally Posted by ice
    Hello guys, I didn't know where to post about this, so I decided to post it here since it got most to do with Gathering.

    My question is (just like many others) Why can't Juju bring in Sgather and make it a payment version of it insted of the free one right now.
    Not only me, many others are very intrested in the bot because it is a amazing one, (don't get me wrong now I still prefer to use Shadow bot) but sometimes Sgather feels just abit better.

    Why I think he should make it not free anymore is because:
    1. There are too many people using this great bot
    2. Because of this the prices goes down ALOT.
    3. I think it aint fair for those (like me) who actually pays for a bot like shadowbot.
    4. You could actually make tons of tons of money. Because many people actually love the bot, since u can use it with Whack and that.

    If you did this, it would been great, not just me but many others would appreciate it!

    Regards

    (sorry if this wasn't the right place for it)
    13/03/2011 05h33 #641
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    Yes, this is not the right post
    But SGather will not remain free for long

    13/03/2011 07h08 #642
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    It's planned since yesterday, SGather Ruby edition, release soon

    http://www.mmolazy.eu/forum/showthre...-Gather/page65

    i hope he isnt just making it paid with no notice ahead of time that would be "douchebaggery of epic proportions"
    Today 0:29 # 15
    Obviously, per month
    The new server and online, and Whack-Bot and Shadow MMOUpdater, optimizations have done was to make everything faster The new server and online, and Whack-Bot and Shadow MMOUpdater, WAS optimizations Have Done To Make Everything Faster

    www.mmolazy.com to manage your subscription (http://auth.mmolazy.com if your DNS is not updated yet) www.mmolazy.com to manage your subscription (if your http://auth.mmolazy.com DNS Is Not updated yet)




    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mmolazy.eu%2Fforum%2Fshowthread .php%2F1690-MMOLAZY-to-the-next-step!-MMOLAZY-une-nouvelle-%25C3%25A9tape!%2Fpage2

    so he says on the 13th ruby is being worked on. and yesterday at 12:29am he says the servers are up so there you go its not that also notice that the sgather download link has been removed... thanks for the notice.. -.- hope hes making better combat for buffs that expire every 30mins/hour (seals) if its going to be paid
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    I will still pay for it.

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    Originally Posted by EqualizeIt View Post

    I will still pay for it.
    i wish we had some notice at least tho thats complete bs... i dont get money for a while.
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    there will prob be a payd and a free ver of the bot the free will have less fetures and will be updated slower wile the payd one will be higer on priority on updates and more fetures and he dident take down the link the mmolazy site is still down and the file is hosted on the mmolazy site

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