[Release] BabBot

[tanis2000]

Don't let the individuals of MMOwned get you down. The community is a congregation of adolescent mouthbreathers.

I've been following your project for quite some time now, ever since you posted about it originally on GD. I thank you for your contribution and I sincerely hope you continue with your work. I appreciate that someone like yourself would put forth the effort to build such a project and give it out freely. I only wish I was a better programmer so that I could help contribute - although I'm learning C++ instead of C#.

On a separate note, I can't help but think that you should change your license. It would seriously irk me if people took my work and repackaged it in order to turn a profit for themselves, leaving me penniless.

Thanks for the support Naem

Actually this community has some very clever and talented individuals as well who are those I'd like to see getting more involved in public projects instead of the usual private stuff. Don't worry, I'm not letting anyone get me down

I don't care if people are making money out of my work as long as they give something back to the community, be it in form of new code, patches, fixes, anything. I strongly believe in GPL as a model for this kind of project. It's the elitist mindset and the chinese-money-making-machine that I can't understand and that's sort of hurting but I can live with it.

The funny thins is that I originally started looking for a bot for my own use and I happened to stumble on some of them but none were perfect and all could have been improved. So I took care of writing to the authors telling them that I'd have liked to contribute code and all of them refused to share the code in any way. In the end I realized that the only way to have a bot with all the stuff I wanted was to start coding my own, which is a lot of work for a single person who has a lot of other things to take care of day by day. So I choose the fastest approach I could come up with which was C# (easy to prototype stuff with that language) and some libraries like BlackMagic that allowed for cutting the time needed. Then some other guys jumped in and contributed some code (and I thank all of them for being such cool guys) but a few guys will never make a perfect product with such little spare time to work on it. Thus why I love the idea of having it Open Source. Literally anyone can contribute a little bit to the main project and see it grow and eventually reach a mature status.
Of course being backed up by big bucks or a company would turn this into a work but it'd defeat the purpose of the project in the first place. I'm not there to make money, I'm there to give something to the community in exchange of help which in turn goes back to the community so it's a win-win situation.

[Thelovefool]

Lol all these site noobs really annoy me. Cypher posted something and the next posts that follow are like this:

"Lol Cypher pro"
"lol ts is a noob"

The most member of mmowned at this time are only a whole bunch of leechers who give shitty responses which really no one need.

Instead of posting all these shit you can maybe learn c# and help the bot to get undetected ...

+Rep for you tanis

[UnknownHero]

Nice work Tanis, i shall look into what i can do to help
+Rep
/UH

PS: i tried to check your sourceforge page,
and i got Authorization Required
thought i let you know.

this one works -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/babbot/

[Viano]

Lol all these site noobs really annoy me. Cypher posted something and the next posts that follow are like this:

"Lol Cypher pro"
"lol ts is a noob"

The most member of mmowned at this time are only a whole bunch of leechers who give shitty responses which really no one need.

Instead of posting all these shit you can maybe learn c# and help the bot to get undetected ...

+Rep for you tanis

Signed!

Yeah, Cypher is "pro" ... because he stated the obvious instead of helping the project. But wait ... he is "pro" and he doesn't have to. Other blind mother ****ers just love what he states and because it's Cypher it is 100% true and there is always just one truth. So let us close our eyes and follow the leader. Heil Hitler!

Thanks Tanis, I was copy&pasting portions of your code as every noob would do but then I started to think about it and develop my first modules and now I have something on my own. Thanks to you I understand many things now. I guess it is how every noob begins, by looking at code. You will probably discontinue the project because of lack of support from others. I would gladly help you but currently I have no time for playing.

I would like to donate this project, is it possible?

[tanis2000]

PS: i tried to check your sourceforge page,
and i got Authorization Required
thought i let you know.

this one works -> BabBot | Get BabBot at SourceForge.net

Blame SourceForge.. most of the time even public links go through SSL and sometimes they even end up requiring people to be registered and logged in at SF in order to see the page. If you navigate through the project main page you usually end up where you want without having to become mad at it. The authorization system used at SF for all the new hosted apps is still in an early stage IMHO and it sucks big time

Thanks Tanis, I was copy&pasting portions of your code as every noob would do but then I started to think about it and develop my first modules and now I have something on my own. Thanks to you I understand many things now. I guess it is how every noob begins, by looking at code. You will probably discontinue the project because of lack of support from others. I would gladly help you but currently I have no time for playing.

I would like to donate this project, is it possible?

It's not just my code. Me and caos are the main contributors as we basically joined forces at the beginning to get it on its feet. But there's a lot of quality code from different people in there. And I can't see anything bad with you copypasting the code to learn how those things work. As long as it's been useful to you and you learned something new and didn't make a fortune just by copypasting and selling for money it's cool

And no, we are not accepting donations.

LOL.

Epic post.

Indeed, epic post. But since when unprotected sex always ends shitty?

[Rocker]

Hey Tanis, you should help out guizmows with GPbot, its growing fast and could use more skilled coders

[Apoc]

Keep the thread civil guys. I don't have time to give infractions to all of you.

[Apoc]

I commend you for trying to go open source; but from one C# coder to another; your code is ugly as hell and full of potential bugs.

Plus; you can optimize soooooooooooo many things with just some small changes.

Kudos on trying; but until you clean up the code base, and at least wrap all the descriptors, you won't be making a whole lot of progress.

[~OddBall~]

i commend you for trying to go open source; but from one c# coder to another; your code is ugly as hell and full of potential bugs.

Plus; you can optimize soooooooooooo many things with just some small changes.

Kudos on trying; but until you clean up the code base, and at least wrap all the descriptors, you won't be making a whole lot of progress.

do it nao!!!

[jimanvlad]

Hmm, some mod decided it was better to delete some of the posts -.-

Since the old one got deleted (I guess cause people felt the need to point out that Cypher is too aggressive ?) I'll say it again but with fewer words: You are doing a great thing with this project and i am thankful for it. Even if it's in its early stages, it's a very solid base to start with.
+Rep and nominated.

[crixu]

this is freakin' awesome, keep up the good work.

[maxaki]

Cool, I've been waiting for this, opensource bot, FINALLY!

Thank you!

[tanis2000]

I commend you for trying to go open source; but from one C# coder to another; your code is ugly as hell and full of potential bugs.

Plus; you can optimize soooooooooooo many things with just some small changes.

Kudos on trying; but until you clean up the code base, and at least wrap all the descriptors, you won't be making a whole lot of progress.

I actually agree with you Apoc, that code is ugly. The main reason being that it's been thrown together to get as many features working as fast as possible during the initial development cycle when it was just me and caos working on it. It started out as a proof-of-concept that has been growing since then.

At some point I'll start cleaning it up and optimizing it but the main plan is to have a decent base working for others to expand on. If I had something like this when I wanted to help out other fellow bot coders I'd have been happy not to reinvent the wheel once again even if it's buggy or ugly. After all I could have spent my time adding new features or cleaning it up but I wouldn't have had to start from scratch.

So I hope someone will jump in the boat and lend a hand with whatever skill he has.

On a side node I wouldn't mind to have a chat with you about different things if it's not a problem for you.

[Apoc]

I actually agree with you Apoc, that code is ugly. The main reason being that it's been thrown together to get as many features working as fast as possible during the initial development cycle when it was just me and caos working on it. It started out as a proof-of-concept that has been growing since then.

At some point I'll start cleaning it up and optimizing it but the main plan is to have a decent base working for others to expand on. If I had something like this when I wanted to help out other fellow bot coders I'd have been happy not to reinvent the wheel once again even if it's buggy or ugly. After all I could have spent my time adding new features or cleaning it up but I wouldn't have had to start from scratch.

So I hope someone will jump in the boat and lend a hand with whatever skill he has.

On a side node I wouldn't mind to have a chat with you about different things if it's not a problem for you.

Feel free to send over a PM if you want.

[[Sadistic]]

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