Niantic knows if you used NecroBot or it's public forks. Ban comes sooner or later.

[RazorBackBX]

Following links show some of the reasons why NecroBot, it's forks and apps which use Rocket API are easily identified by Niantic.

#265 [Issue] Fix protocol API. Current public Rocket API / FeroxDev is completely broken.
[Issue] Fix protocol API. Current public Rocket API / FeroxDev is completely broken. * Issue #265 * NoxxDev/NecroBot * GitHub

#293 [Issue] Fix protocol API. Or Niantic keeps banning users of 3rd party apps. Current public Rocket API is completely broken.
[Issue] Fix protocol API. Or Niantic keeps banning users of 3rd party apps. Current public Rocket API is completely broken. * Issue #293 * NoxxDev/NecroBot * GitHub

#336 [Issue] Protocol API still broken. Niantic can still identify 3rd party app users.
[Issue] Protocol API still broken. Niantic can still identify 3rd party app users. * Issue #336 * NoxxDev/NecroBot * GitHub

Based on conversation on these issue threads and code changed done to NecroBot illustrates either of the following possibilities.

Either currently NecroBot is controlled by Niantic one way or the other or current NecroBot maintainers / contributors don't know much about development (in other words they are retards).

People should look and use other alternatives (bots which aren't based on NecroBot) until some of the NecroBot forks fix their code, if any ever will.

[awand]

All bot using rocket API...

[RazorBackBX]

All bot using rocket API...

Sorry not true.

There is also public Java and Python implementations of said API. Who knows which private versions there are.

[cl3537]

Sorry not true.

There is also public Java and Python implementations of said API. Who knows which private versions there are.

Why obfuscate the truth? show me proof that even one bot sends a proper Unknown25 and Unknown22 and completely reverses Unknown6 sending a call exactly like the game client.
Who gives a crap if some Bot Dev many links down the chain from the RocketAPI devs does a few tweaks to it, or ports over to Java.
'Private API' is bullshit, hiding your code doesn't mean you have done what the very public team of hackers couldn't do over at PokemonGoDev.

The calls are NOT the same for every bot as the actual client.

Lets just wait and see when things are broken again who comes forward and fixes it next time, lets see if these 'Private Bots' are able to get it working again or if we are all waiting for Pokemongodev again.

[ntatoo]

Sorry not true.

There is also public Java and Python implementations of said API. Who knows which private versions there are.

if you said like that , why did you start the post in first place
LOL

[pidgeyking]

if you said like that , why did you start the post in first place
LOL

This thread is about Necrobot and it being unsafe. There are many private bots out there that cost money, they might be different. In other words, necrobot devs wtf.

[clamchoda]

Why obfuscate the truth? show me proof that even one bot sends a proper Unknown25 and Unknown22 and completely reverses Unknown6 sending a call exactly like the game client.
Who gives a crap if some Bot Dev many links down the chain from the RocketAPI devs does a few tweaks to it, or ports over to Java.
'Private API' is bullshit, hiding your code doesn't mean you have done what the very public team of hackers couldn't do over at PokemonGoDev.

The calls are NOT the same for every bot as the actual client.

Lets just wait and see when things are broken again who comes forward and fixes it next time, lets see if these 'Private Bots' are able to get it working again or if we are all waiting for Pokemongodev again.

Don't be so sure. I'm waiting to release something very special once these API bots are dead. Currently on pause trying to get 0.35 to prompt me for Captcha.
Don't worry, not one single form of Captcha will stop me.

[awand]

Sorry not true.

There is also public Java and Python implementations of said API. Who knows which private versions there are.

thats all same base, just use different lang.

[awand]

This thread is about Necrobot and it being unsafe. There are many private bots out there that cost money, they might be different. In other words, necrobot devs wtf.

the RE team is different with Bot creator mostly,only view bot creator join on Reverse engineering most of bot creator only implement the available protos/API

[acidified]

Don't be so sure. I'm waiting to release something very special once these API bots are dead. Currently on pause trying to get 0.35 to prompt me for Captcha.
Don't worry, not one single form of Captcha will stop me.

I'm intrigued. Tell us more

[hamada]

what the bots that is safe?

[cl3537]

the RE team is different with Bot creator mostly,only view bot creator join on Reverse engineering most of bot creator only implement the available protos/API

Pokemongodev RE team doesn't want to talk about bots, face copywrite, DMCA or any other lawsuit. They don't assist bot developers and thus far they have not tried to perfect RocketAPI. It is theoretically possible there is someone who can do both RE and join with a team that codes a great bot its just very unlikely.

This is probably the best thread I've read on OwnedCore in days so I will thank OP for sharing the info. I think that the original post in this thread should be stickied and referred to in so many threads to come.

I think commercial bot development is a foolish and unprofitable endeavor and not worth the time so keeping private bots is not something I can respect. I do respect enthusiast free and public bot development, it is fun while it lasts, but its quickly becoming too much hassle for both devs and users.

There is something to be said for not tipping Niantic to our hand and keeping bot information private so that they can't immediately modify their anti cheat to auto flag bots but that doesn't mean the devs of "commercial bots" can't be truthful about what their bots do and don't do. Their silence on questions about API calls speaks volumes.

I'd like to see a Stickied Thread "Warning use of all current third party tools especially bots will get you banned no matter how you use them due to incorrect API requests"

[awand]

Pokemongodev RE team doesn't want to talk about bots, face copywrite, DMCA or any other lawsuit. They don't assist bot developers and thus far they have not tried to perfect RocketAPI. It is theoretically possible there is someone who can do both RE and join with a team that codes a great bot its just very unlikely.

This is probably the best thread I've read on OwnedCore in days so I will thank OP for sharing the info. I think that the original post in this thread should be stickied and referred to in so many threads to come.

I think commercial bot development is a foolish and unprofitable endeavor and not worth the time so keeping private bots is not something I can respect. I do respect enthusiast free and public bot development, it is fun while it lasts, but its quickly becoming too much hassle for both devs and users.

There is something to be said for not tipping Niantic to our hand and keeping bot information private so that they can't immediately modify their anti cheat to auto flag bots but that doesn't mean the devs of "commercial bots" can't be truthful about what their bots do and don't do. Their silence on questions about API calls speaks volumes.

I'd like to see a Stickied Thread "Warning use of all current third party tools especially bots will get you banned no matter how you use them due to incorrect API requests"

There is commercial dev that also good on RE and some put money (donation) to RE dev team, he join on RE Team when we try to break unknown6 staff,
if you interesting , there are alot space to discuss about API Unk25 no longer unk by iGio90 * Pull Request #208 * AeonLucid/POGOProtos * GitHub

[d3st1ny94]

Why obfuscate the truth? show me proof that even one bot sends a proper Unknown25 and Unknown22 and completely reverses Unknown6 sending a call exactly like the game client.
Who gives a crap if some Bot Dev many links down the chain from the RocketAPI devs does a few tweaks to it, or ports over to Java.
'Private API' is bullshit, hiding your code doesn't mean you have done what the very public team of hackers couldn't do over at PokemonGoDev.

The calls are NOT the same for every bot as the actual client.

Lets just wait and see when things are broken again who comes forward and fixes it next time, lets see if these 'Private Bots' are able to get it working again or if we are all waiting for Pokemongodev again.

Bro by the way to talk you don't even code . Just shut up and stop crying. You knew the risks when you were botting. . .

[cl3537]

Don't be so sure. I'm waiting to release something very special once these API bots are dead. Currently on pause trying to get 0.35 to prompt me for Captcha.
Don't worry, not one single form of Captcha will stop me.

Well I look forward to it, that is if you aren't silly enough to make it pay only or private.
Did you reverse the new Unknown 6 fully?