New way to ban botters?

[ffriozi]

Hello guys.

i worke as IT and i have at my disposal +- 200 public ips and infinite vm machines.

i think the niantic is banning something else besides IP, maybe hardware ID don't know yet...

This is what i found so far.


Tests:

Machine#1 / IP#1 - Botted for 12 hours and the account got banned. (Restricted response from game server.)
changed to IP#2 at the same Machine#1 and tried an new account. got the SAME mensage (Restricted response from game server.)

So i set up an new Machine#2 with IP#3 and tried again with the same new account... WORKED.

i will continue this research and back with more result.

Has anyone noticed this too?

thanks.

[Fadelol]

We have been talking a little bit in this thread: IP Ban theory. regarding the possibility that it is now an IP-ban. It is however important to distinguish the different types of temporary bans for the sake of the discussion. I would like to group them into the following:

Temporary bans

• No Pokéstops
• CatchEscape
• CatchFlee

Seemingly permanent bans

• Error retrieving data from server

Now the machine ID of the VM or PC won't actually be passed on to Niantic. So it should rather have something to do with the spoofed device ID that you set on the bot which should be randomized per bot in most latest releases. Could it rather be this that is happening?

Machine #1 always had the same device ID in the auth.json files would make it seem like the same device trying to login to different accounts after being banned. But that is definitely not telling the entire story as I have had what seems to be definite IP-bans as well. I.e. same machine, same user and no pokéstop, same device ID - changed IP by spoofing MAC on the NIC and presto it worked. It's possible they are fielding many different kind of temporary bans that to us seem almost the same which makes it difficult to discern what is actually causing them and thus more difficult to prevent.

[iicecube]

They are trying deviceID banning at the moment but will soon work for Anti-cheat software unless we going to waste time making new account all over again..

[clamchoda]

Mac Address?

[Fadelol]

Mac Address?

Unless the bot sends a MAC-address, which I am pretty sure they don't, Niantic wouldn't see any MAC-address from client side.

[suthek]

Unless the bot sends a MAC-address, which I am pretty sure they don't, Niantic wouldn't see any MAC-address from client side.

Lack of Mac Address then?

[w4r]

It has to be deviceid agreed, all my accounts taken out today, the last ones to go where the ones i also logged into on my phone, but they was levelled up with a bot so would have more than 1 deviceid, any more info about this or how to go about getting unique deviceids? are they able to tell if it is made up ?

[toymola]

With my observation it has to be the device id. Bot that was release to the public majority will have the same device id. So they cab easily pin point acct that runs same id

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[lsvet1]

That is why you always have to change deviceID.

[b2dj]

i think what we all need is to wait for the next update of niantic since there are legit players who also got the same message of presume banned bot account.

[Zakjoe]

My account says unable to connect to the server. Another type of ban?

[MelissaTaylor]

teleport ban too

[munak991]

Im curious,
Why niantic has many ways to verify the user whether he is a botter or not.

Hardware check.
Since PKmon go need hand gesture touch alot, they just need to scan whether the user keep touching the screen on the last 2-3 minutes. If precision touch like bot movement, they can send a soft ban. see whether how it is respond
Gyrometer, almost all phone build in gyro scope. measuring all axis. pokemon go sever just need to check past 2-3 minute whether the device has been move.
Light meter detector, if value has been constant, with movement = bots

[Deadlift2nd]

Im curious,
Why niantic has many ways to verify the user whether he is a botter or not.

Hardware check.
Since PKmon go need hand gesture touch alot, they just need to scan whether the user keep touching the screen on the last 2-3 minutes. If precision touch like bot movement, they can send a soft ban. see whether how it is respond
Gyrometer, almost all phone build in gyro scope. measuring all axis. pokemon go sever just need to check past 2-3 minute whether the device has been move.
Light meter detector, if value has been constant, with movement = bots

This actually sounds plausible

[Fadelol]

Im curious,
Why niantic has many ways to verify the user whether he is a botter or not.

Hardware check.
Since PKmon go need hand gesture touch alot, they just need to scan whether the user keep touching the screen on the last 2-3 minutes. If precision touch like bot movement, they can send a soft ban. see whether how it is respond
Gyrometer, almost all phone build in gyro scope. measuring all axis. pokemon go sever just need to check past 2-3 minute whether the device has been move.
Light meter detector, if value has been constant, with movement = bots

There's a good post on it here: if you are wondering how your bot was detected... : pokemongobotting but this pretty much only touches reasons for permanent bans. OP in this thread is talking about IP-bans, or what has been thought/seems to be IP-bans.