[Resolved] Scammed by beraaccounts

[r12221]

Information
Scammed by Beraacounts (lied to me and stole my character
Purchase Date: 7/7/2020 (less than 24 hours after purchasing)
Date the problem began: 7/7/2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]


Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): BeraAccounts.com | EpicNPC Marketplace
Approximate value of property: 327 Euro
Was Trade Guardian used? no


What is the dispute about? I got scammed by bera, lied to me and stole my money after we had an agreement.

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So yesterday i purchased an in game character from this gentlemen and got the service done smoothly, what i realised after was i used a different credit card for the payment, i instantly went to the seller explaining what happened, thinking he will be able to refund the money back to my credit card and paying him with my other credit card, not knowing he had a different thought in this head thinking i would scam him. That isn't the issue anymore, meanwhile me arguing with him for a refund with less than 24 hours of the purchase thinking he would help, tells me give me back the account so i can issue a refund as told in the screenshot, so i give him the username, password and security question. Meanwhile he goes in changes all the data in the account comes back to me and tells me i'm keeping the account safe from you and not issuing a refund. i ask him politely to please issue me a refund without any hectic problems. he denies and lies about me threatening him and where u can see in the screenshot i say if u wont deal with it the proper way i can contact paypal regarding this matter and he takes that as threatening me and takes his account back without issuing a refund. looking at it now who is trying to scam who exactly. i told him i will even cover the price of transferring his account back but he still denies. so now after all this arguments he takes back his account which i paid for and still keeps my money after telling me i will issue a refund when u give me back the account. In the pictures i'm named Coffee Bean and him BERAccounts

Proof

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[BERAccounts]

You have purchased an account from another seller via my channel. You paid directly to him and he moved character to the brand new account that is made by you. Delivery has been done as promised and you paid nearly half of the total amount as 300/625 Euro (Payment Plan).

You told me that you did a payment with wrong card which is definately understandable from my aspect. I told you ''Send the money from your other card then my seller can refund first payment to you.'' but you have refused to do that. I would never let my seller perform a refund if you still keep the product under your possession. Then you asked for a refund and I contacted with my seller regarding your request which is refused by him. After that, you threatened us with doing forced-refund via Paypal. (No need to mention about your countless excuses for get a refund.)

I tried to help you since the day 1 but you tried to abuse my service and vendor. I had to take account from your hands because I cannot risk my provider. He doesn't accept your refund request and I have literally no reason to pay 300 Euro from my pocket in this case.

There won't be any refund since product has been delivered as promised and seller have every right to decline your request. I am keeping this account under my possession and I will deliver account back after full payment has been done. You still have to pay 325 Euro.

[r12221]

you agree'd to giving me a refund and in exchange giving you the account back and said i will not bother me anymore and still kept my money and the account back.
so in Hines sight you are trying to scam me and even offered me a 50% discount, so you are telling me i can offer you a 50% discount but not a 100%.
your lying.

[r12221]

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so you say i can offer you a 50% discount but the seller is saying no i will no offer a refund.
your lying.
your just trying to make the most out of it.
next time you say something dont change the narrative.
you said give me the account and i will give you ur refund back.
simple as.

[BERAccounts]

I will upload screenshots soon. Your story is fake.

[r12221]

i have a dispute with NPC and this is what they had to say.

Scammed by BERAaccounts | EpicNPC Marketplace

you can take a look for ur self.
He clearly states a verbal agreement and the takes back his product and keeps the money and says i'm trying to keep the account safe from you.
in the beginning he even agree's to a 50% refund where i strongly disagree for a product that didn't even last 8 hours with me.
but then realises im not accepting a 50% refund and goes with the owner doesn't want a refund.
he's been pema banned on npc. that shows a lot.
he scammed someone in 22nd of june and is still trying to do it again.
this time im standing against it like everyone should against these people.

[BERAccounts]

1- Agreed Amount was 625 Euro, not 300 Euro (+Fees):
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2- You purchased this product from another seller via my channel and you paid to the seller directly (I have no profit on this deal):

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3- Here is our real conversation:

Imgur: The magic of the Internet (I offered you 275 Euro Store Credit for this. But you were desperately trying to use my TOS for get a refund. It shows you had no intention of finalizing this deal.)

https://imgur.com/undefined (Your Credit Card Excuse for get a refund.)

https://imgur.com/sguBNtS (After I refuse your refund request, you are threatening us with a forced-chargeback.)

https://imgur.com/VxYXebF (I've offered you %50 refund because seller declined your refund request and 'I did this refund offer from my own pocket.' If you don't pay that 625 Euro, someone else needs to pay for it.)

https://imgur.com/cgPAQeQ (After you said that you are going to do a forced-refund few times, I had no option to take the account and keep it safe until you finalize your agreement and pay 625 Euro as total.)

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Like I said to you before, I haven't returned this account to the seller. I am keeping it under my possession until you make full-payment. Afterwards, account will be delivered to you. He doesn't wants to refund to you and I have no reason to lose 625 Euro just because of you. You clearly miss-inform people with your dispute message. Your story is half-told.

I trusted you with accepting you to a payment plan and delivered account to you without receiving the full payment. But you decided to abuse that.

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Edit: I also contacted with EpicNPC and he told me that he won't review the case on EpicNPC and we have to solve this on Ownedcore.

[r12221]

i've never even had the chance to talk to the seller, how do i even know if the seller is actually in this or even ur acting as the seller.
the whole agreement was with me and you.
the seller didnt even had a chance to talk to me
dont even use the seller as an excuse, how do i even know if the seller is actually him.
you are trying to back up a seller which is not even involved in this conversation.

[r12221]

offer me a 50% refund from your money.
so you are willing to lose money for this deal.
clearly u have an agreement with the seller or yourself to try to get the best out of this deal.
and after all this your still trying to so hard to get it.
when someone makes a verbal agreement and gives you part of his deal you are supposed to full fill that agreement. and do act like you cant get the account back its very simple and ur used to it just contact blizzard and tell them the account has been illegally stolen and u will get it back.
you are just trying to get as much money as possible from it and still keep the account.
ffs who even says i'll pay my own money. you clearly are trolling my friend.

[r12221]

and so far the epicnpc admin he clearly states u have had multiple accusations of similar scams where u can read here Scammed by BERAaccounts | EpicNPC Marketplace.
why dont upload a pic of the epic npc saying he wont review, he already took his actions by perma banning you. so dont even try to do it here.

[r12221]

why the fuck would you even pay from your own money if your just the middleman, extra change in ur bank account?
or ur just trying to force something.
crooked move from you. it proves that there is something behind closed doors that u have an agreement with the seller (if he actually is the seller or u pretending to be the seller) to have a win/win situation for both of u and me just to lose money.

at the end of the day u asked me to give back the account in return for a refund, if thats not forceful handicap move i dont know what is u cant simply ask for something and just say im keeping it safe with me.
you are not even the owner of the account why are u having control of the account. it doesn't make any sense. clearly you are playing this game where u are trying to scam me for as much money as possible.

[BERAccounts]

You haven't mentioned about payment plan that we agreed on. You are acting like you did payment in full but for some reason, I took this account from your hand. In reality, I took this account under my possession because you were acting suspicious and threatening my seller with performing a forced-refund. It is not allowed in any reselling platform. If you would decided to walk away without paying rest of the amount, seller couldn't restore his character back. It is my responsibility to protect buyer or seller if it is needed.

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When I realized you are not honest, I just wanted to close this with minimum loss for myself and seller. Temporarily lost 150 Euro is better than losing 325 Euro + 625 Euro worth of character in my eyes. I could also restore my funds after sell this character to another customer. I even offered you 275 Euro store credits for this product. Weren't you going to purchase another 1750 Euro worth of product after I perform a refund? Then why you refused 275 Euro store credit? It shows you were using this 1750 Euro account as a bait for create illussion of 'Just refund me, I will pay more to you.' and get your money back. These screenshots proves you did this intentionally and you immediately told me that you will issue this on Paypal if I don't refund.

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Yes, I had to tell you that I will do a refund for restore access to the account. At this point, it is called as preventing from fraud. I secured this account before you started Paypal dispute so even if you would have won the dispute, we wouldn't lose more than Paypal refund fees.

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Delivery has been done flawlessly by seller and everything was as described. I told you countless times that he declined your refund request which was purely his right to do it. Then you started threatening my seller with forced-refund. If you would be seller in this case, I would do same thing for protect you too.

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I trusted you and did my delivery before you made payment in full. But you tried to abuse that so I am just being sure about my seller won't lose his character even if you succeed on Paypal dispute. Also I don't believe that you will send missing 325 Euro at this point. But if you decide to do that, I can gladly deliver account back to you. All I am trying is, keeping both side safe in the end. Seller cannot restore his account while it is under my possession and you cannot ran away with taking everything for yourself.

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In any perspective, you are the problem here. But I repeat one more time, if you pay total amount to the seller, I will gladly deliver account back to you. If you have no intention of doing the payment, then that means you void terms of my payment plan. Everybody knows that I always do my refunds and never fraud people. If Ownedcore moderators finds a fair way to solve this dispute, I will follow their decision.

Best Regards

[r12221]

You have been banned from Epic NPC Core what are you talking about, u are fraud and well known one.
if had respected your customers and dealt with them in a professional way.
And u cant speak for someone else, if the owner wants to talk he knows where to contact me, stop making ur self look like the innocent person here.
you've been caught so many times and recently scammed a person on Epic NPCon the 22nd of June as said in Epic NPC.
you are still trying to make.
and for you to say im a scammer you can contact blazzingboost and g2g to see how my reputation is with them.
i've dealt with almost all the biggest websites and your calling me a scam, u can clearly see i even mentioned i will even take cost of the transfer your character back to you.
your are trying so hard to change the narrative and not once have i been disrespectful to you.
But assuming that someone will just scam you i would've not even mention the refund if i wanted to scam you i would've just spoke to paypal.
but i came to you respectfully you can clearly see in the chat.
and after everything u are deleting chats on discord to avoid all ur trash comments.

[r12221]

you cant assume to come to a buyer and tell him send the account back and i'll refund you, thats just illegal use of force to just claim u are in the safe side, what about my money?
so to you making sure ur account is safe is good but the customers money its fine right?

[r12221]

u cant even reply on epic npc, while banned and having a reputation of multiple scams.

BeraAccounts.com | EpicNPC Marketplace - this is him banned

SCAMMER WARNING!!!! This guy is a big scammer. I bought an account from him which was under a fake nickname which then got recalled. BERA is acting like a child telling me I'm dumb and blocked me. DO NOT BUY FROM HIM AT ALL! | EpicNPC Marketplace - this is his latest scam.

Imgur: The magic of the Internet - this is the response of Epic NPC Admin

Imgur: The magic of the Internet - this is what the Epic NPC admin actions taken, not my words the epic npc admin.