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    Originally Posted by Heftydogg View Post
    You have some neat theories and metaphors, but you're looking at this from only one side. You're arguing that it'd be better business to leave the scam section as it is, but that's just for your own personal interest.

    To spin-off your pizza metaphor, let's say we have a pizza corporation with 10,000 employees, 2,000 of them being thieves and steal from the register, fudge the books, cheat customers. Pizza Corp. becomes known for awesome pizza, awesome service, and scumbag employees. Suppliers and buyers become wary. CEO calls down and says to get rid of the 2,000; we don't need them, we're far more successful in other fields of the market.


    Grats, we can all do math and see this is a loss. But you can't view it on the short term. Any smart business will make decisions based on long term effects. The moderation team unanimously hates the scam section and the rep it's giving the site, they carefully analyzed the effects involved with changing it, and decided it'd be better in the long run. So Pizza Corp. loses 2,000 employees, clearing their name and making room for fresh blood.

    MMOwned finally cleared out the trash. Lets use your numbers and say 3,000 scammers leave because of the changes. (Probably not what they joined nor stayed for). The stats on the front page say
    Members: 520,122 as of posting this. Check back in a week, I bet the loss of the 3k giving MMOwned a bad rep is replaced with fresh blood. And not that a 12-15 y.o. scammer would understand this--but sometimes it's not about petty numbers. Good will and reputation will get you much farther than a quick buck.
    Well, someone finally caught it. I was just thinking about this in Math the other day and found this exact flaw.

    Hefty, you're right. The positives here are much, much greater than the negatives. As much as it irks me to know the good ole scam section is forever changed, it is best for MMOwned. Sure, as I stated traffic potential will be at a loss at the beginning, but, I didn't add reputation into the equation. Customers value reputation extremely highly.

    MMOwned is a site to find fun things about WoW, hack it (in a "fun" way), and just let the community know of bugs/exploits. I highly doubt the scam section was meant to be what it is today. Someone will make a WoW scam site eventually and we'll all be happy.

    As for now, it sucks, but I guess I'll build my bridge and get the **** over it.
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    Originally Posted by x Royal x View Post
    Well, someone finally caught it. I was just thinking about this in Math the other day and found this exact flaw.

    Hefty, you're right. The positives here are much, much greater than the negatives. As much as it irks me to know the good ole scam section is forever changed, it is best for MMOwned. Sure, as I stated traffic potential will be at a loss at the beginning, but, I didn't add reputation into the equation. Customers value reputation extremely highly.

    MMOwned is a site to find fun things about WoW, hack it (in a "fun" way), and just let the community know of bugs/exploits. I highly doubt the scam section was meant to be what it is today. Someone will make a WoW scam site eventually and we'll all be happy.

    As for now, it sucks, but I guess I'll build my bridge and get the **** over it.
    and the traffic decrease has not been seen yet hefty said what i have been trying to tell you all the time

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    I do belive changes in scamming section generate a race of sheeple who are eating grass outside the protective farm fence feeling secure, thinkin they can outsmart the wolf, but to their surprise to be eaten by the wolf.

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    Originally Posted by Heftydogg View Post
    The stats on the front page say Members: 520,122 as of posting this. Check back in a week, I bet the loss of the 3k giving MMOwned a bad rep is replaced with fresh blood.

    521,732 atm =) Even more joined ;D
    In only 4 days

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    well..... its ok I gueesss XD

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    So, now that you've stopped people from posting any sort of scams at all, you might as well take the scamming section down. No one would come here for advice on how to avoid scams

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    Well, I guess it's for the better.

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    Hey x0g, it's ok what you did but I want to get comments on my scam youtube video's they are all WoW related.... no Keyloggers involved... can you make a new thread about that? please!

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    I think we should still be allowed to post gold scams since technically they aren't illegal ; and that wouldn't harm mmowned's reputation much but if gold scamming would be allowed I would wait awhile so the reputation would be as it was in the old days of mmowned.

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    Scamming was all about creativity.

    It was actually pretty cool designing the latest programs, phishers and social engineering methods to scam accounts.

    Scamming is pretty much the natural selection of WoW.

    Going to miss it, all I have left is the inactive ************

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    Yeah I have to admit, the website's kind of gone to shit since the scamming section. And if you look at the site info that someone posted you did lose traffic and are only now slowly regaining it.

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    Yay, bump from last year's thread!
    Anyway, I think that instead of removing sections, we should add more.

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    Originally Posted by LucasGod View Post
    Yay, bump from last year's thread!
    Anyway, I think that instead of removing sections, we should add more.
    There are already loads of sections. After all, often less is more.

    Two active sections > ten inactive sections.

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    Is it innactive?

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    Originally Posted by Reflection View Post
    There are already loads of sections. After all, often less is more.

    Two active sections > ten inactive sections.
    Maybe they should add the sections the users suggest and not the crappy ideas for sections they come up with themselves.

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