The best optical illusion in the world [Video] (Religious)

[Obex]

nothing is realy certain when you talk about God and it is allso a vry sensitive subject to some people

i hail man pourer of the jug of milk

[Banksey]

THIS IS ALOAD OF BULLSHIT!

Milkjug my balls...ALL HAIL THE HONEYJAR!



But back to subject

I am a Atheist and have no belief in A God what so ever.
But, If religion didn't exist, We wouldn't have the civilsation we have today.

But on the other hand you could argue that if it were not for religion, We wouldn't have all these wars and acts of terror.

I am personally not for or against either arguement, But what I do belive, Is that if a God does exist, They will not judge me on my beliefs, But rather my good and bad deeds done in this world.

But as I said, I am a Atheist and do not belive in a God.

And I think a good point to make to this topic would be to quote Dr Carl Sagan:

"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

READ HIS BOOKS PEOPLE

Regards,
Banksey

[kelat]

OMFG THIS IS BLASPHEMY
/SPAZ OUT
/CRY

heh, I enjoyed that video. The argument was presented in a logical way and made sense. I think it's great that he starts it off by saying that "you're christian, you're smart, so you should understand this." Job well done by that guy.

[Obex]

That's retarded, you don't go to a better place or a worse place because you believe in someone.

This is my friend Tom, you can't see him, but he's there. If you don't believe in Tom, when you die your life is going to suck and it's going to be terrible. I don't care if you saved 13 kids from a burning fire, helped solve some huge global problem, you didn't believe in Tom, so your life sucks now.

How the heck is this making sense? If god is so "You didn't believe in me, so screw you!" then pft, screw him, because that's a stupid way to do things, and anyone with half a brain would believe that.

Not to mention, if it were like that, then oh, you know

Religions of the world: numbers of adherents; growth rates

Christianity 30 CE The Bible 2,039 million 32% (dropping)

Yeah, 68% of the world is going to hell. This is logical, why shouldn't i believe this?

Oh yeah, because it's retarded to think 68% of the dang world is going to hell, that's why.

nah what i ment is if your a atheist and you dudes got it right god dosnt exist well then whooo you proved your point now we dont go to heaven and enjoy paridice coz it dosnt exist ... but you proved your point didnt you

[rikuu225]

That's retarded, you don't go to a better place or a worse place because you believe in someone.

This is my friend Tom, you can't see him, but he's there. If you don't believe in Tom, when you die your life is going to suck and it's going to be terrible. I don't care if you saved 13 kids from a burning fire, helped solve some huge global problem, you didn't believe in Tom, so your life sucks now.

How the heck is this making sense? If god is so "You didn't believe in me, so screw you!" then pft, screw him, because that's a stupid way to do things, and anyone with half a brain would believe that.

Not to mention, if it were like that, then oh, you know

Religions of the world: numbers of adherents; growth rates

Christianity 30 CE The Bible 2,039 million 32% (dropping)

Yeah, 68% of the world is going to hell. This is logical, why shouldn't i believe this?

Oh yeah, because it's retarded to think 68% of the dang world is going to hell, that's why.

or beter yet, believe there is no hell/ heaven =/

[Phase228]

or better yet, believe there is no hell/ heaven =/

well just because iam a Christian i can say
Guess what
~~~
If you don't believe in gravity and jump off a building do you float? HELL NO!
so no matter what you "believe" God will send you to where you belong and
Atheists will be going to hell =God's Book
~~~~
Now that vid was just so stupid
scientists proved that prayer has no effect .....how can they?
Put it this way
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Can you see air? no
Can you see God? no
Does Air make a sound? Yes against other things
Does God Make A Sound? Yes you just have listen
--
Clearing that up now...........
i just really had to say something i didn't say anything wrong i was speaking the truth

[Phase228]

Im christian, and I belive in God.. Flame me for what I am. I don't care

yay

People who believe in god are not stupid. They are just insecure and scared. God was created to counter this fear of being alone in the universe and also as a quick way to explain things that science could not.

So not so much stupid as misguided and insecure.

now this
people that Believe in God are not stupid~correct
Iam not insecure nor scared for with my ~Father~ all my Fears Leave
God was not created at all....he was always existent you ask me how? hes GOD
and a quick way to explain things science couldn't?
Science has lost it's meaning trying to explain how the universe was made those scientists are fools now they say pork is good for you.....and they make up stupid things saying the Sun is bad for you
at first science i liked but when i heard this garbage there trying to say about evolution well one question....
Why isn't anything else Evolving....
~Phase228~

[Krazzee]

I'm not even going to get started with you Phase.

[Debt]

Meh i prefer to disprove christianity another way, In the old testament; there is a story of God and Man. Man asks God how he can believe in him without proof, God answers "Proof denies faith, and without faith i am nothing" anyway you take that it means God is what you make him. Now, ask a christian to prove God exists, no matter what their answer tell them the story of God and Man afterwards, Because even if somehow someone proves God exists; they will only prove that he is nothing special and could possibly be only an insignificant figure in an entire species (Angels?)

Wall of text+Religion=Win

[Ulgrim]

He's got a pretty annoying voice

[kelat]

hehe, I think if someone is a die hard Christian, there is no way to convince them that God doesn't exist. Said person will deny all claims or will counter your points by saying something God is holy blah blah blah.

But Phase, you can see air. We know what air is made of. It's made of N2, O2, CO2 and other elements. There is concrete evidence to prove that it exists. People can't survive in a vacuum. People are surviving without God all day. As well, there is scientific proof that Evolution occurred, and is occurring everyday. A process so slow that you can't truly see it at a single given point in time. Evolution is no longer a theory, it's fact.

Hm, I forgot what else I was going to say. Oh well

[Enfeebleness]

Can you see air? no
Can you see God? no
Does Air make a sound? Yes against other things
Does God Make A Sound? Yes you just have listen

Oh really?
So what does he sound like?

Because if i was waking up in the morning and some voice magicly said to me "Don't take the bus, you'll die" i think i'd listen. But that doesn't happen, evidently he feels my death has some cause or something, thanks.

If you don't believe in gravity and jump off a building do you float? HELL NO!
so no matter what you "believe" God will send you to where you belong and
Atheists will be going to hell =God's Book

Lawl!
Gravity has been proven, there's a group of scientists that say "Yes, gravity exists"

The group of scientists that say god exists are looking at there beliefs, not physical proof. Because there's nothing you can show anyone that will make them go "Hey, maybe there is a god!"

God was not created at all....he was always existent you ask me how? hes GOD

Oh yeah, god is just some super natural ghost that's always behind you, but he's not made of anything and no one has ever been "Oh, is that you god?!"

And being always existent....... involves you being created. Even showing up suddenly is being created. Everything is created at some point, you can't say "Oh this table? No no, it was never created, but it was always a table!"

Science has lost it's meaning trying to explain how the universe was made those scientists are fools now they say pork is good for you.....and they make up stupid things saying the Sun is bad for you

Sunburn and the possibility of skin cancer. Evidently good for you to some people.

Why isn't anything else Evolving....

...... you aren't expecting evolution to be instantanious are you?
As if you'd be like "Hey, my fish has started to grow wings!"
You're not going to notice these things, it'll be very small.

[Remahlól]

I agree with Enfeebleness in every point.

I really can't imagine that the Universe is endless, somewhere has to be an end - but what's behind it?

What created Heaven? Heaven is in the universe because EVERYTHING is located in the universe - no matter if near to the planet earth or millions of KMs away.
God is in Heaven, he "waits" for us there. As known by Christians. But what created him? Ok, he might exist - no matter if created or not, but did he create the universe?
If yes, where was he before he created it? In something that didn't exist? How he exist then? Where was he before he created the place where he is now.
Or a better question, what created the place, he was before he created the place where he is now?

I could go on like this forever and make a big post with no sense.

I think there is/must be a physical law which says that something can't be in nothing, because then it is nothing.
Imagine a monitor inside a monitor at the exact same size, or even bigger. <-- Makes no sense.
Also, imagine something, inside nothing (Makes no sense), creating something to be in this something. This doesn't make any sense either.

So God actually had to be created by something, a higher force than the highest known force "alive".
Then we should ask ourself, what created God, if he had to be created, who created his creator and who created the place where this creators were ?

Basicly, there is something that created something, somewhere.
What/who was it and where it was - we don't know it.
It's something, somewhere, but I doubt that there will ever be a true answer on that question.

Greetings, Remah.

P.s. About Gravity and Gravitation, Wikipedia likes to help you. Gravitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Job For a Cowboy]

Atheist's ftw!

W00t!


And where is the illusions?

[Phase228]

hehe, I think if someone is a die hard Christian, there is no way to convince them that God doesn't exist. Said person will deny all claims or will counter your points by saying something God is holy blah blah blah.


Well same goes for them atheists they wana disprove with their stupid science you can't explain the un-explainable

But Phase, you can see air. We know what air is made of. It's made of N2, O2, CO2 and other elements. There is concrete evidence to prove that it exists. People can't survive in a vacuum. People are surviving without God all day. As well, there is scientific proof that Evolution occurred, and is occurring everyday. A process so slow that you can't truly see it at a single given point in time. Evolution is no longer a theory, it's fact.

Hm, I forgot what else I was going to say. Oh well

ORLY?
tell me this if science said that eating your own crap will make you live forever and they make it a fact does it mean it's true?
and also people are not surviving without God they be living in dis-belief of him but no one lives without him

Oh really?
So what does he sound like?

Because if i was waking up in the morning and some voice magicly said to me "Don't take the bus, you'll die" i think i'd listen. But that doesn't happen, evidently he feels my death has some cause or something, thanks.

God speaks in many different ways through people and through your own thoughts
Now.. God doesn't speak to you in a magical voice at least not anymore because so many people where ignorant and worshiping useless garbage but anyway it's your choice to take the bus or not trust me if someone said to you not to take the bus or you will die you wouldn't listen nor would you listen to yourself especially if you have something important and only transportation is the bus you would just go on and wouldn't think anything of it
and you know iam right



Lawl!
Gravity has been proven, there's a group of scientists that say "Yes, gravity exists"

The group of scientists that say god exists are looking at there beliefs, not physical proof. Because there's nothing you can show anyone that will make them go "Hey, maybe there is a god!"]
Well.....
tell you the truth you seem like you are behind science 100%
and There beliefs are there own ignorance because their scientists they have to make a logical explanation for everything
Answer this what is a miracle?


Oh yeah, god is just some super natural ghost that's always behind you, but he's not made of anything and no one has ever been "Oh, is that you god?!"
Exactly don't try and explain God you will get no where
He is the one that made you and everyone seems to think that somehow there was just a Boom and everything was made

And being always existent....... involves you being created. Even showing up suddenly is being created. Everything is created at some point, you can't say "Oh this table? No no, it was never created, but it was always a table!"
nice job comparing what i said to table...
and yes God was always existent he did create him self per say



Sunburn and the possibility of skin cancer. Evidently good for you to some people.
Sunburn beacuse people aren't in it enough and then they stay out in it for to long
and Skin cancer? thats not caused from the sun thats from something else i can't exactly remember but i might have to get you a link to prove myself...


...... you aren't expecting evolution to be instantanious are you?
As if you'd be like "Hey, my fish has started to grow wings!"
You're not going to notice these things, it'll be very small.

Evolution is pure fiction
and i won't notice these things eh? so we won't notice all the fish in the sea starting to fly? it will be very small? is that why when they study an animal every once a year the same thing comes out just new info on what it does......


P.S this can go on forever