You CAN get banned/suspended for space botting, any suggestions?

[ktf]

my exe was changed and it still got me a week suspension. They are checking for something else, probably server side.

[Dartchen]

Hmmmm...there is also the possibility that they are using a low tech method. I've seen the CSR name "Frank" on two emails so far. They could just have a couple of guys going server by server and checking everyone running space missions. I'd figure it would be a high bust rate and every day the list of space botters would get smaller. More than one type of bot is getting hit (I use Lucky and another guy I talked to uses MG) so it isn't specific to the program.

[noob766]

the simplest answer to this is that this method is highly illegal and EA/BW wouldn't be caught dead doing this. there are loopholes to this though. a game like this cannot actively scan your computer for running services/programs. however, the game CAN scan for any programs that are interacting with the game.

with that being said, AutoIT is NOT interacting with the game specifically. AutoIT is simply told where to click and at a specific time, it just so happens that SWTOR is in the way of our clicks =P

when i say "interact" i am referring to the speedhacks and the teleporting hack. these programs are going into the game libraries and actually changing the what the movement speed code is for the game and changing your character coordinates in the "world".


So, as of right now, i will take my 1 week suspension and then let it cool off. last time i checked, the toon that got suspended had a play time of 158 days.

You agreed to let them scan your computer in the User Agreement It has been in there since day 1. Origin does it as well. Punkbuster used to be the one scanning so kill the Punkbuster Process.

[noob766]

my exe was changed and it still got me a week suspension. They are checking for something else, probably server side.

The probably scan for the execution code if they are scanning the computer which means rewriting the program to get around it.

But there are many ways to detect botters, Unless we know how they are catching us we won't know how to protect ourselves

[TheDank]

You agreed to let them scan your computer in the User Agreement It has been in there since day 1.

for the sake of argument, show me lol.

[noob766]

for the sake of argument, show me lol.

Here is the origin one

EA's Origin scans your PC - NeoGAF
EA Says Origin Isn't Spyware, Although It Does Scan Your Entire PC
EA’s Origin wants to scan your PC and invade your privacy « Nerdbuster.com

2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA's Privacy Policy located at EA Games - Electronic Arts. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA's Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.

[Breathofthedying]

Here is the origin one

EA's Origin scans your PC - NeoGAF
EA Says Origin Isn't Spyware, Although It Does Scan Your Entire PC
EA’s Origin wants to scan your PC and invade your privacy « Nerdbuster.com

2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA's Privacy Policy located at EA Games - Electronic Arts. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA's Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.

Not that I want to start a legal debate( which u will loose) but this Does not in any way give ea legal right to collect any software / personal data outside the scope of swtor and marketing.

The simplest solution is usually the truth. Space bot's stick out like a white guy at the Apollo. Trades. Mail and interaction actions with know sellers or buyers. All supporting flags.

I for got. Who said it but they were dead on... Eliminating the compilation so they can sell their own credit hen f2p hits.

[noob766]

Not that I want to start a legal debate( which u will loose) but this Does not in any way give ea legal right to collect any software / personal data outside the scope of swtor and marketing.

The simplest solution is usually the truth. Space bot's stick out like a white guy at the Apollo. Trades. Mail and interaction actions with know sellers or buyers. All supporting flags.

I for got. Who said it but they were dead on... Eliminating the compilation so they can sell their own credit hen f2p hits.

Just curious if you clicked EA's Origin scans your PC - NeoGAF
Showing origin scanning someone's computer

[Breathofthedying]

Just curious if you clicked EA's Origin scans your PC - NeoGAF
Showing origin scanning someone's computer

Yes I did and Again .. they dont have the legal right which is why they are being sued. If you follow that point to the nth... all and any actions they take because of a scan are also illegal and subject to Actions.

Ofcourse ... GOODLUCK WINNING. EatTHERiCH!!!!

I think we are stating 2 sides of a different coin. either way... more of a reason EA was voted Worst Company 3 years in row. They make a damn good hockey game. or did.

[Breathofthedying]

Yes I did and Again .. they dont have the legal right which is why they are being sued. If you follow that point to the nth... all and any actions they take because of a scan are also illegal and subject to Actions.

Ofcourse ... GOODLUCK WINNING. Eat THE RiCH!! !!

I think we are stating 2 sides of a different coin. either way... more of a reason EA was voted Worst Company 3 years in row. They make a damn good hockey game. or did.

I kinda sound like a dick... i mean i know im an Aszhole... but "id like to think im helpful and not a dick"....... dosnt mean im not. >

[Breathofthedying]

I reread the TOS.... I agreed to have my lips sown to a mans ass... and his inturn to another ass..... the non humanity

[noob766]

I reread the TOS.... I agreed to have my lips sown to a mans ass... and his inturn to another ass..... the non humanity

Just goes to show how out of control TOS have gotten

[TheDank]

Just goes to show how out of control TOS have gotten

well i do agree that you have proven your point that they can and are scanning the users computer.

with that being said, changing the .exe name isnt going to make you undetectable lol. it may throw them off of the trail a little. but ultimately i would assume EA is a little smarter and would use some type of memory scanner that is looking for a repeated series of actions (like mouse clicks)

[noob766]

well i do agree that you have proven your point that they can and are scanning the users computer.

with that being said, changing the .exe name isnt going to make you undetectable lol. it may throw them off of the trail a little. but ultimately i would assume EA is a little smarter and would use some type of memory scanner that is looking for a repeated series of actions (like mouse clicks)

I hope so, because if its just that we can beat it with Random(0,xxx)

Or its searching for an active program with a certain hash. Maybe we should pool exactly what was everyone doing when they got suspended.

Ex
Amount of time spent botting
Type of bot
Time of day you were botting
was the bot stock(meaning did you edit the script at all)

That way we can figure out what they are using to detect it. Or at least have some data to extrapolate from.

[TMichael]

One of my bots using using a renamed, customized (different hash) version of Lucky's got a suspension earlier. In all likelihood, it's simply a matter of investigating behavior outside the norm, i.e. number of quests done per level, total number of space missions done, space missions done per day, hours played per day, amount of activity not from space missions,etc. When enough red flags present themselves, your account probably makes the investigation list.

I've had a few bans and one suspension so far, but the account which has done the most botting and selling by far remains untouched. This account also has multiple characters that were leveled via questing and a great deal of "legitimate" play time. So make of that what you will...