Some questions about bot (work in progress)

[snoopgrinder]

Hello everyone, im new here. Was reading site for a while. Now im making a bot for this game, and im already have it working a bit..
but this game is kinda new, so mechanics are not well known yet. So, here is some questions. If someone is making bot also, i think we can share ideas in private (but i can post here)
1 The main question is about items for sure. I had chaos orb in first 15 minutes of playing game, in the second location on normal. So then i finished the game on normal, and had very few drops later.. i made a bot running in one of locations of act 1 . it had some chaos and alchemy orbs and others.. but not me not bot had a GCP or exalted orbs for example. I did not try a game on harder difficulty, so i don't know if drops are better on higher difficulties? I read some topics on POE forums and saw people say that they found exalted on act 1 normal, and some say that they have bad drops even on highest difficulty.. so, do drops depend on location and difficulty? Also, does it depend from my level and difference between my level and location? For example im 35 lvl and grinding around 10 lvl location.
2 How do item rarity\quantity affect the drops? I have around 100 rarity + ~40 from gem and 20 from gem quantity.. need to but that andvarius ring hehe
3 Monsters on screen a hard to detect because they don't have healthbars like in diablo. I made it by moving mouse fast around char, but it works not really great and not immediately. Maybe there is some hack or suggestion?
4 any known good and easy farm locations?

Thanks in advance.. i can share my ideas if you have some questions.

[pushedx]

1. Currency is not weighted in terms of where it drops. You can find the rarest of currencies starting at level 1, killing the zombie that drops a skill gem. It's extremely rare, but within the design of the game. This means you can stay in the low level zones, and not miss out on anything currency wise.

2. Read the Mechanics thread, starting with "Drop rates".

3. "Pink Mobs". Texture edit monster textures with a color that stands out, such as Magenta, and bypass any "patch" logic that would revert them. Now, you can pixel search the color.

4. To understand farming spots in the game, and what makes them good farming spots, you need to play the game first. With that said, you should focus on farming The Ledge with a build that has great AoE at low levels. Once you can master Ledge farming, you can look at other places.

[appudda]

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo/...-textures.html ([Tutorial] Path of Exile - Editing textures!) <-- I saw monster graphics while messing with that. Loot will be easy too since you can change loot color

[snoopgrinder]

hey, thank you for replies.
1 - very nice to hear this. But it seems strange. Everone can grind low-levels to get orbs and then buy needed item from a trade-chat...
2 - hm give me a link please to this.
3 - i was thinking about this . But the dead monsters will have the same texture so... still monster detection is the most slowdown of a bot now.
4 I played thru normal. Im farming at prisoners gate now, cuz its linear and you do not need to analyze a map (just get the direction at start). Then just go forward and its ok. I was playing by a witch and i use ice nova if i see monsters.

appudda - see my 3 reply. I changed the loot color alredy yea

[pushedx]

1. It's well known how "weird" the currency system is, for the exact reasons you mentioned.

2. The link is already there, it just doesn't show up well on the forums. Click on the word "Mechanics" in my first post.

3. It's not as big of an issue as you think. If you have a screen full of dead bodies, when you go to hover over their corpse, you won't get a HP bar. You should know that they are dead by that fact alone and be able to move your character, looking for alive ones.

[snoopgrinder]

2 - sorry, did not notice it at first. well.. then the drop depens from (your level - monster level)... i have low currency drop then.. because im 35 lvl on lvl 11 location.. -60% oh..need to make take higher location or lower character then...

3 my current way is moving mouse around myself and watching for a health bar. but this is not working immediately.. and the way with textures wont either.


Increased Item Rarity
This modifier has no effect on the number or type of currency items, scrolls, or gems that drop. I was collecting inreased rarity items... to get exalted orbs lol

Oh... this is really bad.

[dbsalinas89]

I have a 350% item rarity set. i farm the level 66+ Dungeon maps each day for fun / experience. I can say honestly that even with 2 perfect andvarius rings on and many other great stat items with high IR i cannot notice where the difference in my item rarity help. I always roll with a full party for +50% Item quantity per player but honestly threw my powerleveling services for friends i have noticed many many many more drops in cruel difficulty. I understand the way the loot system works but i looked 5 uniques within 2 hours in cruel difficulty doing a merciless rush for ONE player last night. I think a bot for this game first needs to be a grinding bot and then develop from there. In the case of my character a ranger.. I can go to the docks on merciless and 1 shot every mob there even the blues if they are stacked up for chain. I cant see why their isnt already a bot out for atleast grinding and just picking up orbs with a basic portal drop all in stash option.

[trogdorz]

I can give you two pretty big tips.

1. Since currency drops are only affected by "Increased Item Quantity", it's best to stack this stat and run with a full party for a potential maximum of around 400% with the right gear. (50% quantity per party member, and IIQ gear isn't too expensive)

2. The best places for really high end orbs to drop (Divine, Exalted, Mirror) are the extremely low levels because their Loot-table is not including trashy Orbs yet. That way when an orb drops, it's most likely will be a much rare orb.


I hope this helps, good luck!