WoW Map edittor, (edit .adt and .wmo files)

[Nugma]

Believe what you wish, doesn't make much difference.

I don't think ME is going to be hit by the nerf-bat because of this program.

[SomeWhiteGuy]

1st off I apologize for the lag in finishing the guide in post 1. I went off afk doing some thing else, but I'm back now.

as for

Expect the nerf in about a week or two. Was bound to happen eventually...
Enjoy the program while it lasts.

It's gonna be hard to nerf server-side as they would need to program in an array of XYZ locations where characters should not be abel to get to (i.e. if a character's Z locations is lower then the ground in the WSG). This is no problem for doing it for battle grounds,,, but in terms of the entire world of Warcraft.... it's gonna take allot of work.

It would be esier for them to take of it client side by taking care of ModelChanger.exe. Both this hack and SO MANY others (mostly model changers) are dependant on ModelChanger.exe. Nerf that, and we all cry. But thankfully, that's not my department so I dont need to work on the next version every time it gets nerfed ^ ^

[Nugma]

1st off I apologize for the lag in finishing the guide in post 1. I went off afk doing some thing else, but I'm back now.

as for


It's gonna be hard to nerf server-side as they would need to program in an array of XYZ locations where characters should not be abel to get to (i.e. if a character's Z locations is lower then the ground in the WSG). This is no problem for doing it for battle grounds,,, but in terms of the entire world of Warcraft.... it's gonna take allot of work.

It would be esier for them to take of it client side by taking care of ModelChanger.exe. Both this hack and SO MANY others (mostly model changers) are dependant on ModelChanger.exe. Nerf that, and we all cry. But thankfully, that's not my department so I dont need to work on the next version every time it gets nerfed ^ ^

He meant nerf it for good. Nice program + rep i'm going to use it for my projects (No, no unfair advantages)

[SomeWhiteGuy]

Nerf it perm? Like,,, how though?

[Nugma]

Nerf it perm? Like,,, how though?

I really don't know how, but they can do it, and we probably won't be able to "fix" it next time.

[Flying Piggy]

Very nice program dude.

Expect the nerf in about a week or two. Was bound to happen eventually...

Enjoy the program while it lasts.

idusy is right on this one , there is no way that Blizzard will let this fly if they hear about it .

[Nugma]

idusy is right on this one , there is no way that Blizzard will let this fly if they hear about it .

Read my post on Suggestions forum, Piggy. This is posted on MMowned only right now, we can still do something about it (No offence to the author)

[Dizziness]

Do NOT use this for BGs. That will result in nerf. If we just use it to get to places for exploration, its much more fun imo. Or getting somewhere fast. I'd say this is the way to get to places we have never been before. I have been waiting for this a long time. +rep for sure.

[kelat]

You're right. I'm done.

Snake....


OP: You sir, are an idiot. What do you think model editting is?!? IT IN OF ITSELF IS CHEATING. Thus, by not exploiting MC so you can win a BG, you allow for its continued existance. There is no reason at all for using MC to cheat in a BG. By writing that, you show to me as well as others that you do not appreciate the almost unlimitied potential of MC. I am furious right now. For two reasons. The first being you make a program, which is fine i suppose, but suggest its use as a BG hacking tool. Have you no appreciation for the underground properties of MC? We do not want Blizzard to see thousands of thousands of players using MC to cheat in BG's, or in the rest of the game. You give Bliazzard reason to nerf it. Model editing has been hit numerous times; you are assisting in the next, and quite possibly the final, ultimate nerf. And to my second point, how dare you even say anything patronizing to Snake? Honestly. Where do you come from? He, more than anyone on this site, knows what he is talking about when it comes to MC. It's not hard to discern this. Only the exclusive purple color name, the Model Editing Specialists tag, and his continued comments in the MC section. I would venture to say that on any subject MC related, he is the most knowledgable expert. If you have in effect taken him away from this site, I hope that you never find solace in anything you choose to believe in. Sorry to be harsh, but I am mad as hell right now.

Digressing, Good job on your program. I will have to check it out. I just wish that you would realize the potential MC has, and not ruin that for everyone by humoring the noobs who want to win WSG by means of hacking, ensuring the final Ban Stick on MC. Please realize where I am coming from. It is the nature of MC and what it has become that fuels this anger. Snake as well, and also all of the accomplished MCers on this site. No one wants to see MC meet the ban stick, but by suggesting certain things and making such knowledge available to the hordes of no posters here, it will most likely be used to exploit. This will result in a complete nerf of MC, one worse than ever before. I don't try to sound elitist or exclusive, but that is how many see it, including myself. Oh well, such is with everything.

[SomeWhiteGuy]

o_o;;;
All I said was that this site seemed like a hack site. And then said I was sorry and not to take it personally.... :\

And I also took out the examples of the WSG, and replaced it with dumb thing BLiz dosnt care about like getting to the roof of StormWind.

And on the next version I'm gonna have a message about how ppl should use it for "exploration, not exploitation"...

....what else do you want me to do? I'm sorry to piss off your friend, I didn't post this app to rally a buncha hackers to pirate and ninja-loot until all hell falls upon everyone. And no, I didn't do it just for the WSG either. TheWSG was just an example I chose because I figured everyone would recognize the area (and now I'm using GoldShire/StormWind as an example instead)

The main purpose of this app is get to places you normally cant, build cites that don't normally exist, and make shortcuts from one plce to another. I was originally going to deonstrate this by deleting a wall in the throne room in IronForge that lets you get to Old Ironforge, but editting the insides of .wmo files is something I havent finished yet.

And as for MC... I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, but Bliz has been and still is trying to nerf it anyways. The last patch they put out last Tuesday proovs this.



And uh, if this app is pissing so many people off..... should I take it down?

[idusy-org]

And uh, if this app is pissing so many people off..... should I take it down?

It's not up to the blues and purples on that one. If you think it's a good idea, that's your choice.

[Shattered]

In my opionion this is an amazing program indeed.. But I would much rather you take it down then leave it up. I love the program, I have not used it yet but it seems quite amazing if you ask me. But it's going to get abused, and then we wont have any model editing at all. It is up to you, or maybe the mods but I congratulate you on just making the program, it would seem like a hard task to do. But I'm not going to be around much longer at least here anyways. So I personally think you should take it down. But now that is not up to me is it.

[nachobel]

The Nogg map-editing program existed for close to a year before blizzard pwned model changing in 1.12.

Why? It was never released publicly. As nice as this one is...GG

[mr. paul'bra]

Modelchanging maps = instant ban in most cases...well, atleast on live servers.

yeah and you get banned when you're under stormwind!!1 hell no
i've been playing wow with edited map files since a year and no gm whispered me (of couse i didn't exploit)

[Nugma]

Or we could post this in the Contributer section so it won't really be used for the bad things (With a link to give you rep ofc)