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    Paladin stat weights?

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    Originally Posted by Sikas View Post
    You failed to mention what class those priorities were for, friend. +rep, I'll be waiting on your response.

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    Feral Tank:

    Because there is no “tanking leather” and getting dodge as secondary stat means suboptimal gearing, you should be filling your gear slots with x/Mastery gear. Beyond that, Expertise/Mastery and Crit/Mastery gear choices are the absolute best. However, because there are stats better than Mastery (Agility and Dodge), you should not be reforging or gemming towards it.

    For reforging, the best course of action is reforging the least wanted stat into Dodge Rating. This is the best support for survivability, while simultaneously keeping our avoidance above the plate tanks. The Reforge priority is as follows, from least wanted to most wanted:

    Haste to Dodge.
    Hit / Expertise (if beyond soft cap), if no Haste, to Dodge.
    Crit >= Expertise (if below soft cap), if no Hit or Haste to Dodge.
    Mastery, if no Haste, Hit, Expertise or Crit, to Dodge.


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    Anonie's Avatar Knight-Lieutenant
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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    Feral Tank:

    Because there is no “tanking leather” and getting dodge as secondary stat means suboptimal gearing, you should be filling your gear slots with x/Mastery gear. Beyond that, Expertise/Mastery and Crit/Mastery gear choices are the absolute best. However, because there are stats better than Mastery (Agility and Dodge), you should not be reforging or gemming towards it.

    For reforging, the best course of action is reforging the least wanted stat into Dodge Rating. This is the best support for survivability, while simultaneously keeping our avoidance above the plate tanks. The Reforge priority is as follows, from least wanted to most wanted:

    Haste to Dodge.
    Hit / Expertise (if beyond soft cap), if no Haste, to Dodge.
    Crit >= Expertise (if below soft cap), if no Hit or Haste to Dodge.
    Mastery, if no Haste, Hit, Expertise or Crit, to Dodge.
    Not completely true expertise is a threat stat and like hit isn't really needed. The tanking neck/rings *can* be used, but since STR gives only 1 AP now, it isn't very good to use it instead of agility neck/rings. Also didn't mention anything about going stam. Read my post at http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...ml#post2103944 where I explained it. Or did ya tl:dr?

    That post also also explains arcane/fire mages and briefly lists warrior stats.

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    your post is out of date, Read Reesi's Post at The Inconspicuous Bear Forums • View topic - Ah! Bears! Cataclysm Tanking (v4.2)

    Reesi is one of the world top bears. i'd believe her over you, no offence intended


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    Originally Posted by redrope View Post
    Paladin stat weights?
    Tank:
    Mastery until CTC cap > Dodge=Parry

    Some stamina if you're hard mode tanking, otherwise hit/expertise.

    At 102.4 CTC cap, start swapping mastery for dodge/parry.
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    Anonie's Avatar Knight-Lieutenant
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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    your post is out of date, Read Reesi's Post at The Inconspicuous Bear Forums • View topic - Ah! Bears! Cataclysm Tanking (v4.2)

    Reesi is one of the world top bears. i'd believe her over you, no offence intended
    Wow... you really didn't read the whole post you linked huh? +Last time I checked, Paragon's bear tank gems stam.

    "For a Stam-centered build - I don't recommend this for Heroic 5-mans or entry-level raiding. More people will see more use of this kind of gemming for Heroic raiding (I am not saying to immediately switch to this kind of gemming upon entering that kind of progression. Heroic progression can be done with Agi gems.)"

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    Because you can totally compare world first raiding pushing content while technicly undergeared for it to people who are doing regmode raiding.


    why dont you goto theincbear forums and tell reesi shes wrong and you know better and see how many people laugh there butts off at you.



    so, OP, unless you are tanking H Rag for Paragon, my info is correct. if your tanking H rag for paragon like the poster above (lol rite blueregtank ismad) then his thread ******MIGHT******* be right. but frankly as Drow is one of the top US guilds (5/7 H FL, world: 119, US: 23) id trust the link i provided more. by a wide margin.)

    BTW Anonie,

    Agility - Provides AP, Crit, and Dodge. No longer provides Armor. Agility is the super-stat for Bears. It provides mitigation, avoidance and threat. No other tank has that balled up into one stat. Stacking Agility is typically the best course of action.
    Stamina - Increases your total health and is also able to provide a small amount of Attack Power through Vengeance. Stamina isn’t as important for us as it was in the previous expansion. Stacking it to the exclusion of all else is ill-advised, though there are situations where it is beneficial to have.
    From another thread on the same forum ("Stam vs agi in 4.2" The Inconspicuous Bear Forums • View topic - Stam vs Agi in 4.2)
    Start with Agility, and if you need more HP for some reason, start swapping things out until you have enough. That being said, the only reason you may find that you need more is because of stupid.


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