Establishing an Account Suspension "Escape Route" for Future Unbans

[hp94]

Deleted as per request.

[gippy]

Hp, wonder if you can help me with something.

Just wondering why your calling out botters in bgs.

[02:43:14] [BG][Immortalsage-Tortheldrin]: [KnowItAll]: Player (my toons name) with BlizzardID 0x03000(random numbers/letters) has a 99% chance of being a bot. Reason(s): Timed Casting and Ability Queries or Ques, concaterated waypoints, fixed targets, FollowUnit active 62% of the time, Player Speed exceeded 177%

As for the op, will changing so many ip's get my account locked for dodgy activity?

[Jeremiah]

Gippy, it shouldn't unless attention is drawn to your account, in whichcase you have an "escape route" as described in this guide.

[D0bby]

I've only ever gone as far as fishbots and model editing but this is amazing, thanks a lot! +rep

[Gary's Mom]

I got a 48 hour ban today for farming hyjal, I had ip hider on so I sent blizz an email, will report back if they unban me.

[Gary's Mom]

"Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding the World of Warcraft account you are using. We understand your point of view and have thoroughly reviewed this issue. As a result, the account action has been removed from the account and all involved parties have been addressed. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused."

Confirmed thanks a lot man.

[Jeremiah]

Glad to hear it worked for you.

[Hadarac]

If I am using a dynamic IP, do I have to do all the steps to change it since it auto changes? Can i just continue what Im doing and claim it wasnt me?

[hp94]

Hp, wonder if you can help me with something.

Just wondering why your calling out botters in bgs.



As for the op, will changing so many ip's get my account locked for dodgy activity?

As you can see, that was one of my 'prized' functions of KnowItAll. It worked really well. Unfortunately, I removed it and replaced it with something that only checked who had 0 kills, damage, healing, etc, part of the way in, then give out a message as if they were a bot. Then, I simply decided to throw it down even further and made it so it gave a fake report only when you clicked on a person and chose to do so. And lastly, I thought even that was too 'harsh' when I supported a botting community, so I think I removed it in version 2.0 (which is out now).

EDIT: I just read in your quote that little edit, "My toons name", did it really catch your bot? Wow, lol, I'm impressed with myself =D. Then again, it's not like it's going to happen again, so feel free to bot knowing do-gooders like me are on your side.

[gippy]

Nah it didnt catch mine, caught someone else's, it was posted in the ban section of the pirox forum with the guy worrying it was a new addon to detect crap set ups.

I thought it was just some gimp with macros, then read the name and realised i'd saw a thread on the forum with it in on the us forums about jp exploit and cata greens.

Opened this thread later and saw your pic, was like a big cycle of everywhere i went i saw you :P

My set up is pretty solid for botting bg's so i doubt i'll get sighted unless their actually botters themselves and know what to look for and eitherway even if they /w me saying reported i'd just carry on botting :P

Nice to know more about the addon and your not using it anymore anyway, thanks.

[hp94]

Hey, gippy, I went on the site and couldn't find that? I would have been really interested in the conversation on the thread that followed. If I remember, I can't see certain threads unless I'm a member, which I'm not =(. Still very interested though.

EDIT: Interested enough, that I'm wondering if anyone can see that, I might have been successful, or I might have just been lucky =(.

[gippy]

Nothing much said in it. just someone opened the thread thinking they'd been caught out by the addon,theyd searched the net and found something similar on mmowned.

i thought it was just someone being a dick with macros and said so then realised id seen you before in another thread, then thats when i saw you here.

If its your addon doing the call outs it definetly caught him, also another botter (he said he saw another guys name appearing with different ids and speed settings)

thread pretty much died after that, except someguy posting tonight that he has it on good authority that the addon will be much better at catching bots on next release :P

[hp94]

Nothing much said in it. just someone opened the thread thinking they'd been caught out by the addon,theyd searched the net and found something similar on mmowned.

i thought it was just someone being a dick with macros and said so then realised id seen you before in another thread, then thats when i saw you here.

If its your addon doing the call outs it definetly caught him, also another botter (he said he saw another guys name appearing with different ids and speed settings)

thread pretty much died after that, except someguy posting tonight that he has it on good authority that the addon will be much better at catching bots on next release :P

That's actually the case. I'm not sure if I'm to release it, since it does manage to actually pick out people much better than anything I've done before, or seen or heard. I'm considering just throwing it in to a huge, seperate addon called 'BotKiller', or something similar, since this has been in the works for such a long time. I'd hate to just, dismiss it...

[gippy]

ah well, in all honesty i think things like those do more harm then good,

where does it stop, people remaking your addon to time the casts of people fish botting to catch them, maybe standing at nodes and detecting how fast and in which direction they fly away to catch them gathering.

Once something becomes wide spread others cant help but stick their nose and try and one up the next guy.

The phrase people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones comes to mind.

[hp94]

Now you see, my addon takes in to account alot more than just that. Like you X/Y map coordinates, refreshed every second or so, all averaged out. How often you follow someone, who often you stop following someone, the averaged time in between them, every single unfiltered (or otherwise) combat log event with timestamps, checking the order they happen with everyone in range, and tons more. It catches afkers 100% of the time (No X/Y position change in a certain time, no casts, no registrar (the addons advanced frame that funnels all of the information into it for sorting and determining who has participated enough), no secondary or tertiary objectives, no tertiary or quartenary checks, etc, all are the reason it catches afkers.

It catches bots pretty well so far but takes TONS of tweaking. Guess and test, so to speak. If you remember, the new KnowItAll comes with a battleground scoring feature. The percentage average you get is compared to an average player in that group, but before, it used to give you an average in your battleground, comparing you to everyone elses score. It put the top player at 200%, the middle at 100%, and the bottom at 0%. But the problem is that it would cause a second or two of lag when you wanted to get that average, it was a staggering amount of math it had to do. Some of the new things that are coming out will have the option to do all that, even if it is so huge it could cause a second or two of screen lock ups, because it's so darn accurate.

The best part is how absolutely easy it is to catch a speed hacker. All you have to do is type /kia scan, and it will (in my version) scan every person around you that is in 'vision range', in a battleground, or even outside of one, and then catches their speed in comparision to others. Fun fact: That 177% you saw in the Pirox bots foums you so easily decided to insult me in, means he was moving at just under 14 units per second, which is how the game measures things. 14 Units per second is normal mounted speed. He could ahve been in a vehicle, or going uphill, on a 60% mount with a crusader aura, or a 100% mount with a dazed effect (or in the process of getting stuck on a rock), or many things. If anyone exceeds, say 20 unites per second, which is closing in on flight speed, while not mounted (or mounted, actually), then they are obviously speed hacking, will be caught in the scan, where it's results will be printed, and have a little button where you can click to report it to the BG. It also saves it to a text file that is the saved variables file.

There is one last great thing about this addon. If you choose to report a player yourself, OR the afk-checks auto report them for you (which I feel confident in putting in - since it has a 100% catch rate of actual non-participation), it sends out an addon message to everyone in the BG. The message makes everyone else with the addon report the same player that was reported, making it much more efficient in reporting afkers.

Don't worry though, this probably isn't coming out for a while, so you're safe.

For a few weeks, at most.