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    asdfowkw's Avatar Master Sergeant Authenticator enabled
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    fail on Wrists

    Ret Paladin guide (srsly)
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    This is one outdated, faulty guide,

    , The rotation you said depends on GEAR, in the t10 2set bonus or more The rotation is basically : Judge,DS,CS,HOW,ConC,Exorcism. You said: "Dont use consecration" ROFL that should be up 100% of the time!, im not gonna say anything more then that this guide is faulty and should be removed from the forums

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    @sneakkz
    hey asshat, remember how in the guide I said something along the lines of "constructive criticism only", I dont believe that is constructive so please take your elitism back to the wow forums
    thanks
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    aight cool thanks man, im still kinda new to ret
    I don't mean to be poignant, but if this is so then why are you making a guide? Good effort, you tried, etc., but you really oughtn't to speak authoritatively on a matter of which you haven't complete comprehension.

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    While what you say does have some sustinence to it, at the same time this guide was mostly rephrased EJ so I thought what I was saying made sense, plus, the entire reason I posted this was that I needed a gear guide for my pally and in creating one I decided to share it with mmowned, if the guide is that faulty I can ask for it to be deleted however I feel that parts of it still have value
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    ret pala
    wat .

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    Originally Posted by Full Metal View Post
    Also a majority of the time it is better to use Relentless Earthsiege Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft having to socket 2 Blue gems sucks. Blue sockets are only useful in gear that has +8 STR bonus(IE: Gendarme's Cuirass - Item - World of Warcraft). For the yellow sockets if the bonus is +4 STR or higher you use the ametrine.
    Use a singel Nightmare Tear - Item - World of Warcraft to activate a Meta Socket.

    That's what the gem is there for, use it. Best choice would be on a piece of gear where you can socket a red gem along with the prismatic gem to get the socket bonus.

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    might want to add in the Addon "Clcret" its a priority addon that runs threw your spec.

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    Originally Posted by royane1990 View Post
    Use a singel Nightmare Tear - Item - World of Warcraft to activate a Meta Socket.

    That's what the gem is there for, use it. Best choice would be on a piece of gear where you can socket a red gem along with the prismatic gem to get the socket bonus.
    that and added that if the socket bonus on an item is atleast 6+ strength its save to put an inscribed amtrine(10crit 10strength) in it. but only to str anything else will result in dps loss. When raidbuffed youre metas agility will also be upped by the 10% from kings and stats from droodbuf. but you are able to activate it with 1 single gem wich you preferable want to drop in a socket with 6 str giving it a 4str loss again bold cardinal ruby but that will be made up with added agi from the tear wich again gets upped by raidbuffs. i lost the exact numbers but raidbuffed this meta+tear is only 2~3 critrating worse than the chaotic.

    As for rotation we dont use any we got a priority system wich is follow
    Judge>CS>DS>Cons>Exorcism>HoW>Holywrath
    when you get 2p T10 u will switch DS with CD. never ever use HoW before any of yer other spells as shown above. it can only be switched with Exorcism.

    sealwise its for trash mostly SoComm. you switch to SoV when mobs live 12+ sec wich is mainly bosses or single pulls like the valkyr trash.

    1 thing you missed out on is glyphs. for Major glyphs i use
    1 Glyph of seal of vengeance (10 expertise rating lowering youre cap to 16 needed)
    2 Glyph of judgement (10% extra damage on judge always nice)
    3 this is where it gets to own choice i use consecration for the extra 2 sec
    on minor glyphs there is not much choice all notable is
    1 Glyph of sense undead (1% extra dmg against undead while tracking)
    2 Glyph of blessing of might (30 minute on yer small might when cast on yerself)
    3 nothing usefull for here i use layonhands

    specwise its desent but far from the best. Divine sacrifice has lost its usefullness it got famous by. now its group only and the dmg is capped. Major talents i miss are imp might 3points in two-handed specialisation and Pursuit of justice. this would be an better spec. im sure there are pencil pushers out there sayin there is better but im quite fond of this spec. The 3 points in divine intelect u got arent needed cuz if youre getting oom youre doin something wrong. to prevent goin oom prioritise judgement as number one and keep eye on youre divine plea. if getting low stop using exorcism

    other than those points its pretty solid and its a good try. +rep from me

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    Originally Posted by Full Metal View Post
    I play a Ret Pally and have never ever seen the spec you posted. 90% of people spec using
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    This spec has been calculated to produce the most DPs possible.
    your rotation depends on your gear. If you have 2PC T9 Judgement has a higher priority over CS. When you have 2PC T10 DS gets priority over CS. Judgement is always use ahead of DS unless you have 2Pc T10. and on boss fights you do use Consecration. You will not go OOM if you keep it up the whole time and use DP accordingly.
    then u havent been around in a raiding environment allot untill DS nerf cuz this was the best spec provided u had a war in the raid with imp battleshout.

    on the spec you posted however i can relate but imho id rather have my previous stated spec but thats a matter of opinion seeing as i raid with 2 other holy palas and rarely get to use res-auras and that the only usefull auras are to improve for a short period of time

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    I'm sorry but this guide is next to worthless. FCFS changes for ret pallies in every situation for every fight depending on your gear.

    Tyrannical and Orca-Hunter are both trumped by the Ony sword. The signet ring is terrible for ret pallies, there are countless better ones pre-icc.

    Judgments should come before CS, especially if you have t9 bonus. It will also ensure your mana stays high. The only time crusader should come before judgments in some cases is if you are stacking up STR with a 264 trinket. Of course on trash with seal of command crusader strike can come before judgments because of the multi target dmg from the seal.

    Sources: I play a full 264/277 ret pally.

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    Originally Posted by stangcobra View Post
    Disregard my section about rotation
    Originally Posted by stangcobra View Post
    all right, disregard my spec then
    Originally Posted by stangcobra View Post
    aight cool thanks man, im still kinda new to ret
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    Originally Posted by stangcobra View Post
    Im writing this guide because I am in the midst of gearing up a ret paladin and I could not find a single guide on the net that gives an up to date ret pally gearing guide, along with spec and rotation
    Google Ret Paladin guide

    Paladin builds - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft
    MaxDPS.com - Retribution Paladin DPS Gear Rankings

    and my personal favorite (my main is a Ret Pally)

    Retribution Paladins

    Moral of the story, before you try and make a guide, first learn how to play the class

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    Nice guide +rep for it!

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