RMP-Guide for ppl new to the comp

[Lethor]

RMP Guide

This is a guide to the famous comp RMP (Rogue, Mage, Priest). I'll try to cover the basics just to give new players a good start.
Because of RMP being a comp you can play in many ways I'll just cover our playstyle.

Table of contents

1. General

• 1.1 Playstyle
• 1.2 General tips

2. Comp-specific

• 2.1 Wizardcleave
• 2.2 TSG
• 2.3 RMP
• 2.4 Shadowcleave
• 2.5 Beastcleave

1. General

1.1 Playstyle:

Being an RMP you want to control the fight as much as possible and build
potential killchances. The mightiest tools you have as an RMP are sheeps,
kidneys, blinds and BURST. You want to use them as well-placed as possible.


1.2 General tips:


-Force PvP-Trinkets early to prepare switches

There are many ways of forcing PvP-Trinkets. An early blind nearly always
forces it.
Especially against druids an early blind can set up a kill on the druid. Just
fear him later on to prevent pre-hotting and just switch to him right after the
fear. Catching him in a full kidney with trinket down nearly always guarantees
a kill.


-Set up kills

I already mentioned a way to set up a kill onto a druid above but how do you
generally set up kills?

The key to RMP is setting up kills. You can kill an opponent in two ways. CC
the DPS and kill the healer or CC the healer and kill the DPS. The most
important thing to coordinate this is communication between the team
mates. Especially between the rogue and the mage.
They have to coordinate sheeps, vanishes, blinds, deepfreezes and kidneys.
If you want to kill the healer you will want his trinket to be down to catch
him in a full kidney (afterwards cs if needed) while his dps is blinded/sheeped
to stop peeling.
If you want to kill the DPS you should try to force the healer's trinket so you
can blind/fear/sheep him full.


-The rogue's tasks

The rogue in an RMP has to keep woundpoison up and kidney the right
targets at the right moment while keeping melees off his mates (slow, gouge,
defensive kidney).
Because of the rogue being a very viable target you have to play foreseeing.
You shouldnt get caught in a stun while the priest is CCed and DONT USE
CLOAK TOO EARLY.


-The mage's tasks

The mage in an RMP has to control the fight. He sheeps, frostbolts (rank 1),
novas, deepfreezes and silences. You should always weigh if you silence
offensively or defensively.
You should preserve your fireballproccs for burstsituations.
You won't be a target most of the time because of your two iceblocks. But
especially hunters like to switch to a mage so be aware of that.
You can also iceblock offensively to prevent CCs but you should be sure that
your opponents don't switch to you.
Rotate sheep drs.


-The priest's tasks

The priest in an RMP has to dispell and shield mainly. You want to stay out of
line of sight of your opponents to prevent CCs. You want to shadowword:
death as many sheeps as possible you cant prevent LoSing. You should try
and burst when your mates announce a kidney.
Another important task of the priest is the fear and manaburn. Together
these two tools are really strong. But take care: If you try to fear too
offensively your opponents will switch to you and a priest is really squishy
nowadays especially with pain suppression down.




2. Comp-specific



2.1 Wizardcleave(2 Caster-DPS and Healer(mostly shaman))

This is a really hard setup for an unexperienced RMP. You should try and
always be near a pillar.
If your priest is CCed, go defensive. You won't survive a wizardcleave
casting at you while you're stunned/deathcoiled.
The rogue should save his cloak/trinket for these situations, the mage his
iceblock.
The only really viable target is the healer, especially if it's a shaman. Either
he stays in your LoS and dies or he tries to hide behind a pillar and you
follow him leaving the LoS of the opponent's casters.
The priest has to spam dispell. If an immolate isn't dispelled fast enough
someone could potentially be dead. You should save counterspell for these
situations.

just wanted to give you a little tip, not sure what rating you are, but on my mages rmp when we fight the top wizard cleaves on the bg, what we do is target on caster, say lock first, and cc shaman, when all cc's are down i cs his lava burst. after that we sheep lock, then switch to shaman , cc chaos bolt when sheep is down, and keep making swaps based on interrupts. it effectively shuts down their burst most of the time, especially since the sheeps asside from the very first ones are hard to dispell from a paladin healer seeing as you have full debuff stacks on the sheep target. you will eventually score a kill, sometimes being able to kill 2 lock pets if you get really good oppurtunities, maybe only needing to ki ll one if your team is quick enough to cs/kick/blind/df fel dom. this of course only being a strat for destro/ele wiz cleaves, but thats what all the top wiz cleaves ive fought have been.

tunneling mages can work

2.2 TSG (Holypaladin, Deathknight, Warrior)

Another hard setup for an unexperienced RMP. Against this comp the opener
is crucial. Your Mage has to try and peel the DPS from the priest right from
the beginning. The rogue should try to sap their healer and open on the
warrior afterwards to prevent MS on the priest. The warrior is the most
viable target (disarm to prevent shield wall) but you can also switch to the
DK when his anti-magic shell is on cooldown. The priest should stay
defensive the whole game. The DK and warrior just have to get to him at the
same time once and he could be dead.


2.3 RMP (mirror)

Your mage should go invisible to prevent a sap. If your opponents' mage
doesnt go invisible your rogue should try to sap him. Otherwise he should
either try to sap the priest (your priest has to mount up and try to get in
combat as fast as possible) or stay defensive and look for a sap onto the
other rogue. If both mages go invisible or if the defensive rogue doesn't get
a sap off the mage and priest should 2v2. If that happens your rogue has to
open up on the mage after a blink to force the first iceblock. (vanish
afterwards and try to get a sap off)
If your rogue gets a sap off onto the other rogue you should train the rogue.
He will drop eventually. Defensive counterspells are crucial if your rogue is
caught into a full kidney.
If your opponents' rogue is not stealthed your rogue should try to peel/tank
him. (Defensive counterspell the mage if your rogue is kidney'd)


2.4 Beastcleave (EnhancementShaman, BeastmasterHunter, Healer(mostly druid))

Really, really hard setup for an RMP. You have to survive the burst at the
start of the game and try to score a kill on the shaman afterwards.
Disarm the hunter while he has bestial wrath up and fear the wolves. Mass
dispell bloodlust off the wolves and the BM-pet.





I'll try and keep this guide up to date and enhance it according to your
comments/requests. Please do not copy any part of it without my permission.

Remember: This guide is not for experienced RMPs but for new ones who
want to get started.

MfG
Lethor

[xoc123]

awesome guide..

[phreec]

Nice guide. +2

But being a noob guide you really should explain for example what setup TSG, beastcleave etc is.

And why FB rank1?

[Lethor]

But being a noob guide you really should explain for example what setup TSG, beastcleave etc is.

I'm going to add that.

And why FB rank1?

Because of the lower casttime

[Lethor]

delete this post pls... i fail

[wowregister]

Was expecting one of those crap guides. GJ, will rep when i can.

[Trollblod]

Thanks for the guide, gonna help me and my mate when I ding 80 on either my rogue or mage ^^

[Slaughto]

Great guide. I am currently leveling a mage to 80 right now (60 atm) and was looking into joining a RMP combo. Thanks for this. +3

[Endedlife]

Being an experienced rmp player this guide is vague (don't use cloak too early, kidney at the right times) at best and you could find any of it at arena junkies (in fact much better information) and downright wrong (wizardcleave with healer being only viable target ex. tunneling mages can work) BUT, and this is a big BUT it is well written and compiled all in one one place which is different then most guides and if you are terrible at your class (new 80) i guess it could be useful.


Edit- grammar and just read the "not for xp rmps" disclaimer at bottom, so ya......

[fatality3]

thx for the guide! will def save once i hit 80 on my mage + rep

[BaboonX]

A noob doesn't look into getting high rated as a RMP honestly. If you don't have knowledge of other classes spells and ability's you need to start there before reading this guide.

I'll +rep you if no one says this is a copy and paste or a repost.

[discobob]

just wanted to give you a little tip, not sure what rating you are, but on my mages rmp when we fight the top wizard cleaves on the bg, what we do is target on caster, say lock first, and cc shaman, when all cc's are down i cs his lava burst. after that we sheep lock, then switch to shaman , cc chaos bolt when sheep is down, and keep making swaps based on interrupts. it effectively shuts down their burst most of the time, especially since the sheeps asside from the very first ones are hard to dispell from a paladin healer seeing as you have full debuff stacks on the sheep target. you will eventually score a kill, sometimes being able to kill 2 lock pets if you get really good oppurtunities, maybe only needing to ki ll one if your team is quick enough to cs/kick/blind/df fel dom. this of course only being a strat for destro/ele wiz cleaves, but thats what all the top wiz cleaves ive fought have been.

[Lethor]

just wanted to give you a little tip, not sure what rating you are, but on my mages rmp when we fight the top wizard cleaves on the bg, what we do is target on caster, say lock first, and cc shaman, when all cc's are down i cs his lava burst. after that we sheep lock, then switch to shaman , cc chaos bolt when sheep is down, and keep making swaps based on interrupts. it effectively shuts down their burst most of the time, especially since the sheeps asside from the very first ones are hard to dispell from a paladin healer seeing as you have full debuff stacks on the sheep target. you will eventually score a kill, sometimes being able to kill 2 lock pets if you get really good oppurtunities, maybe only needing to ki ll one if your team is quick enough to cs/kick/blind/df fel dom. this of course only being a strat for destro/ele wiz cleaves, but thats what all the top wiz cleaves ive fought have been.

tunneling mages can work

added, thanks

[torquxx]

Hmm the guide is quite good, got glad last season with this setup. Me and my team do the kinda the same thing

[Dazerr]

Starting PvP on my mage +rep! Great guide!