[Pally PvP] Tips and Tricks and Ret Pally Tricks

[krazy1killa]

This is a two part guide first is going to be tricks any Pally in PvP can use, second part is for ret pallies only. Some of this may be common sense but I felt the need to put it in.(HoJ = Hammer of Justice)



TIPS AND TRICKS FOR ALL PALLYS

1. This one is huge. Have Seal of Martyr/Blood up, If you are about to be polymorphed judge someone about .2-.4 seconds before cast goes off the damage from the judge will break polymorph!

2. Turn evil- on warlock or DK pets, Turn evil on DKs gargoyle to fear them essentially making gargoyle way less usefull.

3. Holy Wrath- to stun warlock/DK pets you can chain this with Turn evil so DK/warlock can't gnaw or spell lock the cast.

4. Hand of Sacrifice partner to get out of poly sap blind if they are being attacked becuase the damge will break the CC.

5. Hand of Reckoning- to keep someone in combat to prevent drinking or stealthing by taunting and doing a small amount of damage.


RET PALLY TRICKS


1. Repentace Heal, If you repentance a person that can interrupt your casts and you heal you may force a trinket or just get your heal off.

2. Hand of Reckoning to Repentance |Make a macro to Hand of Reckoning then Repentance this way you keep the person in combat throught the repentance and you keep vindication on them.(If I get any requests I will put the macro down below.)

3. Another big one, if judge is down so you can't do #5 up there, HoJ a polymorph. HoJ has a 3 second interrupt therefore even if the mage could blink out of it he still has a 3 second stun on him.



I could write a full blown guide but I don't feel ret pallys should need it that much. I just felt like putting this on here becuase these seem to not be used by most pallys but this is what you need to bring yourself to that next level of playing.

Anything else I should put up just tell me I will put it after this part and give credit to the one who posted it. I just hope this will help some pallys out there.

[Sinsane]

Really cool, never thought about a couple of these.

+rep from me

[terradragon]

Does hand of reckoning work on players again? :O!

Also AWESOME tips! The hand of sacrifice one is GOLD!

Also I never ever ever ever thought of fearing the DK's gargoyle.

+repcakes from me!

[Smygelito]

Nice little trick selection. I never thought of some of them but a few is just common sense to me. +Rep for contributing tho.

[krazy1killa]

Does hand of reckoning work on players again? :O!

Hand of Reckoning is the taunt that does barely any damage and if you are ret it is bugged to apply vindication (20% stat decrease). it does around 100 damage and can be used to keep people in combat becuase of that, also becuase of its larger range ret pallys may need to use it too.

[lolnej7]

Hand of Reckoning is the taunt that does barely any damage and if you are ret it is bugged to apply vindication (20% stat decrease). it does around 100 damage and can be used to keep people in combat becuase of that, also becuase of its larger range ret pallys may need to use it too.

No dmg anymore to players, but u keep them in combat + vindiction.

Actualy CASTING turn evil as ret is kinda useless, u kill the pets faster then u cast lolz (except the gargoyle ofc).

Anyway nice guide for new players. +Rep

[ryanlist]

Ok turn evil is usefull especially against locks, not so much on the pets but locks themselves in there specced into Metamorphosis (wich turns them into demon for 30 secs) the demon form reduces there damage taken so u can use that, then they eather trinket out off it in wich case there trinket is used so u can repentace them or whatever to reduce the time u are attacking him in that form. U can then concentrate on whatever else is around other enemies,,

[tifaz]

nice one. although judgementing a blood on a target before a blind or poly is very very hard consider ping and everything.

its almost the same logic is you spam cleanse, while a target is trying to cc you (e.g sheep/fear) there is a chance you can cleanse the debuff off just as it lands.

best trick for ret to be introduced in via pvp suituation is fakehealing and distance control.
follow by exo grounding totems macros

hand of salvation glyph is also very nice now

turn evil is also overrated for ret.. against locks best outcome is really to just kill the pet... since it dies in 2gcd......
almost the same rule apply to dks...
great counter against metalocks is holy wraith follow by a channel turn evil or simply just destroy them.. no point using it to cc....

[krazy1killa]

I am replying to the 2 posters above me in the same comment here.

ryanlist: No good lock will spec demonology it is the worst warlock spec right now and yes turn evil to avoid a spell lock can be VERY crucial.

tifaz: What you said about judging poly is WRONG it is VERY easy to do. The damage you receive from judging has around a .5 second delay ALL the time becuase of calculation etc. If you know you are about to be blinded (intuition) then judging can save your team a loss. Once again no good locks will spec demo.

[StarLight.]

Thanks for this. Will try it out

[Thimpey]

Also I never ever ever ever thought of fearing the DK's gargoyle.

/cleartarget
/targetexact Ebon Gargoyle
/cast [exists] Turn Evil(Rank 1)
/stopmacro [exists]
/targetlasttarget

Or something like that, gogo!

[soto]

All these tricks seem very well-known and really nothing special imo, would like to add something, the tiny bit of damage that hand of reckoning does actually pierces immunitys (like bouble/iceblock) so if a target is extremely low (im talking about 2-3 digits health here) you can use it on him while hes boubled and actually kill him, this trick won us a game against the rank1 dk-hpal off our BG in s5, was so funny

[krazy1killa]

Shameless self bump

[devilisme]

Just common sense. Its sad that this is actually helping people.

[tifaz]

ur be amazed at how many ret pallys are bad due to these common sense...

no cleanse.. to begin with