How To: Ret DPS

[issuesbunny]

I've found that prioritizing Crusader Strike above Judgement to work out better for me just because of the fact that if you judge before crusader striking, they come up on the same cooldown and you lose DPS time waiting for the global cooldown to use crusader strike. In an ideal rotation cooldown world, you'd be able to use your abilities the instant they come off the GCD, but since our spells often come up at the same time, you cant, you just have to do your best to try and make a rotation that allows your important abilities to be hit right as they come off.

Also, I'm a fan of the glyph that makes hammer of wrath have half the cooldown when avenging wrath is up, some people think I'm weird for it, and even I think I'm a little weird for it, but when you do get avenging wrath to line up with 20%, using hammer of wrath every other attack.. mmm.. so hot.

[omberg]

Okay, the spec I can agree with changing, whatever. The rotation however is correct. Instead of actually trying what I said why dont all the people who havn't been playing ret for 4 years blast my methods? SoC IS LOWER DPS RIGHT NOW. Bottem Line.

Divine Storm comes second in the rotation due to its cooldown length, the fact that it heals you (thus you can use seal of blood the entire raid), and the fact that it usually hits harder than CS.

1. Forgive me if I miss the point there.. But how does the time you spent playing have anything to do with how good of a paladin you are? It does not take 4 years to learn paladins. Or well, in your case it's obviously longer.

2. For Divine Storm to do more DMG than Crusader, then you will need ~400 Armor Penetration. So, if you got this, good for you. But; us smart ppl know how much Armor Penetration sucks as a stat, so we got much much lower and therefor use another rotation.

So. Don't flame me if you are as stupid as a ****ing train.


PS: No point in arguing in this thread, I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore after this post. If you still want someone to argue with, go to The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0) - Elitist Jerks

[jesusisgod]

1. Forgive me if I miss the point there.. But how does the time you spent playing have anything to do with how good of a paladin you are? It does not take 4 years to learn paladins. Or well, in your case it's obviously longer.

2. For Divine Storm to do more DMG than Crusader, then you will need ~400 Armor Penetration. So, if you got this, good for you. But; us smart ppl know how much Armor Penetration sucks as a stat, so we got much much lower and therefor use another rotation.

So. Don't flame me if you are as stupid as a ****ing train.


PS: No point in arguing in this thread, I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore after this post. If you still want someone to argue with, go to The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0) - Elitist Jerks

He wasn't flaming you idiot, but now I think you deserve to be flamed for being so god damn rude.

[krarkitty]

Whatever, I was just trying to offer up some advice for people who don't know what they are doing since noone else did. I'll just keep to myself next time.

[xTheDudex]

Hi, first post here. Seeing as how I play a ret paladin, I'm going to have to disagree with you on some of your points in this guide. First off, your spec is horrible. You should actually be specced into kings + imp kings as ret. You do NOT need Vindication or Eye for an Eye in PVE. Vindication doesn't even work on raid bosses, it never has. Those are purely PVP talents. Next, Consecrate actually does more damage on single-target boss fights or pulls, so you always want that as a priority over Divine Storm--same with Crusader Strike. Also, another point I forgot to mention-- you wan't to have specced into Seal of Command. Sometimes it's situational and you need to use it instead of Seal of Blood, so it's good to have. And, you should always have Divine Plea up on every CD. Also, having your MT as your focus and tossing instant FoL his way every time Art of War pops up is helpful (at least in being a benefit to the raid). But yeah, aside from the fail spec and and spell priority, nice guide.

[Canizzz]

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Paladin -> Talent Calculator
That's the real pve speck.

[Sidlock1]

Talents are horrible. I would rather give points to BoK and let other Pals to use their talent points usefully for raid.
I have one question, our Paladin is making so much agro, is here any possibility to make it lower? He is ofcourse using Fanaticism.

[xTheDudex]

Talents are horrible. I would rather give points to BoK and let other Pals to use their talent points usefully for raid.
I have one question, our Paladin is making so much agro, is here any possibility to make it lower? He is ofcourse using Fanaticism.

Your tank needs to l2play.