2h Raiding spec for warriors

[Ancathon]

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This is what i truly believe is the one and only "Viable" raiding spec for a 2h warrior.

Let me go into depths, and please flame me if this IS a repost, i did not find anything but i could have missed something.

First off, the arms tree:

Improved Heroic Strike- Heroic strike is known as the general "Rage Dump" for warriors, less rage per heroic strike, more heroic strikes you get, simple enough.

Deflection- No really viable use for doing damage, but trust me, when you raid you WILL have to off tank mobs, that is no question asked, and as I always say, your utility in a raid is greater than your dps.

Improved Overpower- This move is great. 50% critical strike chance plus your normal critical strike chance, so for most warriors with halfway decent gear out theyre you are looking at an 80% crit chance per overpower, and if you dont have much rage, this does not hurt at all to switch to battle stance.

[BDeep Wounds[/B]- This move does not sound great, but if you look at a damage meter mod like recount, or a wow web stats report, you will see that deep wound damage usually averages to about 6% of your total damage, and also this talent is needed for impale.

Two Handed Weapon Specialization- This talent goes without being said, 5% more total damage, does not really need an explanation.

Impale- 20% more damage from your critical strikes, that brings a 1000 damage crit to a 1100 damage crit. It is a need for any dps warrior.

Specializations- Just put 5 points into whatever weapon you have. Generally the best specialization has been known to be mace specialization, due to the rage generated from it when it Procs, but do not let the weapon skill talent sway you from choosing a lesser weapon, it is not that big a deal, for they are all generally on an equal ground.

Sweeping Strikes- Does not really have a raiding viability, but it is needed to get Mortal strike, which is a must have for a 2h warrior. (Sweeping Strikes will have its position switched with Death Wish in 2.3)

Weapon Mastery- Simple, more skill with weapons equals less chance to miss.

Blood Frenzy- Pay attention, this is why most raids will love you. Blood Frenzy gives ALL the melee in your raid a 4% total damage increase in your raid, Yes that means all the rogues get 4% more damage, you get 4% more damage, and the ret pallys and enhancement shamans get 4% more damage.

Mortal Strike- This is your main move, this gives you a helluvalot plus 210 weapon damage and will be your main move as a 2h fury warrior. It has a 6 second cooldown.

Now the fury tree:

Cruelty- 5% increased critical strike, this is great because it is a direct benefactor to your increased damage.

Improved Demoralizing Shout- This is just personal preference for me instead of unbridled wrath. Theyre should always be one warrior in your raid with this talent, because it directly takes away the physical damage the main tank takes, and your main tank better as hell have not gotten these talents, so you better as hell should

Piercing Howl- This helps on some boss fights, like Morogrim Tidewalker for example, where it is used to slow down murloc adds, and on some other fights obviously, just a good move to have just in case.

Commanding Presence- This move gives you more attack power from your battle shouts, and more health from your commanding shouts, a better choice than blood craze or improved cleave, which will be used rarely in raids.

Improved Execute- Simple math, when a mob gets down to 20%, that is YOUR time to shine, you will most likely be the #1 dps for that 20%, so why not spend two more talent points to speed up the process?

Engrage- Quite honestly, this talent really sucks for raiding, because if you start taking damage in a raid, you are doing something wrong, but it is also needed for flurry, which is a must have.

Improved Slam- This move is great, you should use it for slam rotations, a good mod to get for your rotations is quartz, which has an auto attack timer.

Death Wish- A great situational move, this is good to use when a mob is in execute range preferably, spamming this, execute, and reckleckness will give you a huge dps burst.

Flurry-Putting all 3 of your remaining talent points into this is great. 15% increased attack speed doesnt only add to increased damage, but increased rage.


If you have any question please post, please dont flame, this is just my personal opinion on a good raiding spec for a 2h warrior due to many tests. You always have your own opinions, so please dont flame saying omgmyspecisbetter. If you want to suggest something or point something out, please feel free.

[issuesbunny]

No point in going out of your way to spec different for raiding using a 2h, if you want to raid, go fury get 2 weapons, if you want to pvp, go MS get a beefy 2h.

[Ancathon]

That is not true in even the closest sense. look at some WWS from some of the top end raiding guilds worldwide, some use MS warriors in theyre raids over fury warriors. They are two completely different raidstyles, and to be honest a 2h fury spec is more raid viable than a full blown fury DW spec. It also just comes down to what you honestly prefer.

[issuesbunny]

That is not true in even the closest sense. look at some WWS from some of the top end raiding guilds worldwide, some use MS warriors in theyre raids over fury warriors. They are two completely different raidstyles, and to be honest a 2h fury spec is more raid viable than a full blown fury DW spec. It also just comes down to what you honestly prefer.

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Warrior DPS spreadsheet.

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[Ancathon]

I have used that exact spreadsheet on more than one occasion, and I am an avid reader of EJ forums, I dont just do things without research and testing.

[issuesbunny]

Unless you're in BT/Hyjal, typically fury will do more damage.

[Kyiz]

Unless you're in BT/Hyjal, typically fury will do more damage.

Agreed with all comments by Issues, Fury will do better dmg, Ive never seen the 5k dps on Shade videos with a 2hander warrior

[Ancathon]

I do not agree with that above comment at all. The only thing I am going to say is that it all comes down to the playstyle you prefer, and I am just trying to guide the people who LIKE using their 2h'ers in raids to optimize theyre dps.

[issuesbunny]

Don't get me wrong, your spec is most likely the best 2h raid spec, but the only thing is, if you're serious about raiding to the point where you'll ditch a PvP spec and go for a PvE spec, you might as well get two swords and do it that way. The only reason a warrior pre-BT/Hyjal should be using a 2h is because their fury weapons are broken. But once you get past kael and gear starts becoming better for 2h, more power to you, arms it up, but also you're a BT/Hyjal warrior, you'd assume that by then know what spec to use if they're that far in raids, making this post sorta useless, no? Just my two cents. ;p

[Ancathon]

All I am trying to do is help the upcoming dps warriors who want to use their 2her :wave:

Dont get me wrong, you need a helluva lotta gear to maintain good 2h fury dps, but hell, if you dont like fury, why not start using a 2her, why the hell would you play this game if you dont enjoy it, just my twocents theyre.

[issuesbunny]

I had a long reply written, but I wont bother.

I see where you're coming from, but if you want to do the most damage and dont care about weapon you use, go fury.

[stielauge]

I don`t agree with your opinion isuesbunny...

Fury is a raid Specc, ok, it deals a lot of dmg, ok

BUT, you can also nearly have the same dps with a 2h MS build. The way to suxxes is here to skill Imp.Slam in combination with a swing timer....
Try this for some time (when you know how to;P) and you will see that you can reach the same or nearly the same dps that you have with a furry spec!
I think a MS PvE Build is a little bit more difficult to play!

[issuesbunny]

Stielauge, you realise in the second line he says "raiding spec" which means a spec for "raiding"

Also, you're right, a skilled MS warrior will outdps a bad fury warrior.

But a skilled fury warrior will outdps a skilled MS warrior.

Also, if it's that difficult, why not just go fury, do more damage and have it be easy.

[roor]

I find this 33/28 set up much better for raiding World of Warcraft Europe -> Talents

[Ancathon]

I did this post before 2.3, its outdated now (: