Which Is Better - Warrior Raid Spec

[Locklear]

well I had one a while back that had some good advice.. Yet I stuck with the current spec I had at the time - I still have this spec..

Current Spec - WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

Now with my current spec, I have noticed that quite a few things have become unnecessary.

Cons:
Anger Management - That Tends To Never Work For Me.
Imp. Revenge - That Doesn't Work Every Time, only about 1 in every 2 tries and only lasts for 3 seconds.
Imp. Shield Bash - Doesn't Silence. Ever. I have come to notice
Imp. Taunt - It's O..K..A..Y.. - I usually don't have to use taunt much in raiding, sure ill pop it up every now and then if a DPS unleashes hell on the target which isn't very smart unless i have a LOT more aggro.

Pros:
It's a Solid Raiding Spec I've Used For a VERY Long Time, started using it in around October/November.
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Spec Im Considering Switching Too - WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

Cons:
Imp. Heroic Strike - I Lose the Rage Minus for this, I do use Heroic Strike lots.
Imp. Bloodrage - I lose this, the extra Rage I always do enjoy at the start of a fight when I pop it and pull..

Pros:
I Lose Some Useless Skills, but lose 2 sort of-important ones.
I gain +5% Critical Strike Chance
Imp. Sunder Armor - Will Cost me 3 Rage Less for Devastate
Gain Imp. Defensive Stance - 6% Less Spell Damage when in Defensive Stance.
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Now, there is also ONE more possibility I'm considering..

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

With This Spec - I Would Take Out Imp. Taunt COMPLETELY Yet, Unlike the Other Spec im Considering, I would be able to retain One Point in Imp. Bloodrage which will give me +3 Rage when using BloodRage.

Looking For Some Feedback!!

Thank You,

Locklear

[Kezah]

I'd suggest this specc: WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

It's a very nice raiding specc. You get Imp. Bloodrage which you seem to like and you also get anger management for the extra rage. 2 points in heroic strike to make it more spammable along with all the extra rage make this a very nice build for threat generation. I always use this when tanking and it's been very good so far.

About Imp. Revenge and Imp. Shield bash. All raid bosses and alot of trash are immune to stuns and silences so those two talents are pretty useless, sure they can be nice in heroics or so but generally it's just wasted talents that would be better off somewhere else.

[Forever]

As a tank you must always tune your spec for bossfights, that is where you gain progress. That means no Imp Revenge/ShieldBash (immume, useless) and in a boss fight that 1 rage per 3 seconds isn't really going to help.

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

This is an optimal spec for bosses. Improved sunder armor not really needed because once you get 5 points in there you shouldn't use it that much. 5% crit for more thread/rage and everything else is pretty straightforward.

You can ofcourse take that 1 point out of improved taunt and put it in improved bloodrage but 3 rage.. well that's not much.

[Kezah]

Improved sunder armor not really needed because once you get 5 points in there you shouldn't use it that much.

So you don't use devastate? The optimal threat cycle is Shield Slam -> Revenge -> Devastate -> Devastate. Less rage on devastates gives you more rage to spam heroic strikes = more threat. Improved disarm is totally useless too.

[Locklear]

As a tank you must always tune your spec for bossfights, that is where you gain progress. That means no Imp Revenge/ShieldBash (immume, useless) and in a boss fight that 1 rage per 3 seconds isn't really going to help.

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

This is an optimal spec for bosses. Improved sunder armor not really needed because once you get 5 points in there you shouldn't use it that much. 5% crit for more thread/rage and everything else is pretty straightforward.

You can ofcourse take that 1 point out of improved taunt and put it in improved bloodrage but 3 rage.. well that's not much.

Imp. Disarm is only good for PvP/Attumen so 3/3 in Imp. Disarm is wasting TP's as you can't use it on Most Bosses.

3/3 in Imp. Sunder Armor = 3 Less Rage for Devastate