Proof we have blizzard lurkers :)

[TommyT]

SUSPENDED for farming felslate, conversation with GM. - YouTube

around the 2:30 mark

[Parog]

The bawx, which used to be private, was used at least once for proof in a legal document. I can't give more details as that legal document was not meant to be shared, but being that we are public, Blizzard can access our content up to certain sections. This forum is also a resource for them to make their game better and fix potential game breaking exploits before it has too much of an impact on their market.

This being said; you can rest assured we will never willingly share user information to Blizzard in any way shape or form.

[advanta]

The bawx, which used to be private, was used at least once for proof in a legal document. I can't give more details as that legal document was not meant to be shared, but being that we are public, Blizzard can access our content up to certain sections. This forum is also a resource for them to make their game better and fix potential game breaking exploits before it has too much of an impact on their market.

This being said; you can rest assured we will never willingly share user information to Blizzard in any way shape or form.

Worth bearing mind that in an open channel you don't have to say everything. Don't mislead other members, but you don't have to tell the whole truth either.

Examples of what I'm talking about:

1) Publish exploit A (very profitable) to deflect attention from exploit B (insanely profitable).
2) Publish exploit C to induce a hotfix creating exploit D (gamebreaking).(I use that one a lot.)
3) Publish exploit E, a dupe, to crash the price of item. Buy up in bulk. Profit after hotfix/market recovery.

Etc etc. Blizzard are just asking to get screwed over by taking everything here at face value.

[crunk001]

Is the staff here from blizzard itself or why did you remove my post? jk

EDIT: I've just read the PM, who posts account information in this regard?

Please understand that the intention of the initial reply here was "to make oneself stupid in order to believe that what is posted here as exploits, is not supervised and looked into by blizzard employees" - of course it is. On a regular basis. Again I have no idea what you meant with sharing account information. My reply was only pointed towards the exploit section and it's lightheadedness of believing all the shared methods are happening in secrecy

[crunk001]

Worth bearing mind that in an open channel you don't have to say everything. Don't mislead other members, but you don't have to tell the whole truth either.

Examples of what I'm talking about:

1) Publish exploit A (very profitable) to deflect attention from exploit B (insanely profitable).
2) Publish exploit C to induce a hotfix creating exploit D (gamebreaking).(I use that one a lot.)
3) Publish exploit E, a dupe, to crash the price of item. Buy up in bulk. Profit after hotfix/market recovery.

Etc etc. Blizzard are just asking to get screwed over by taking everything here at face value.

Thank you for sharing and seriously mate, I from my mind thought of doing so and using such obscuring techniques, because you can generate quite some profit from it. But the corruption I feel it has on the sanity of my mind, to do so and to manipulate so intensly, has previously kept me from doing anything such "smart". It is disgusting. And looking what effort it requires in bending ones mind in such unhealthy locations. No, no, no.

[Parog]

Thank you for sharing and seriously mate, I from my mind thought of doing so and using such obscuring techniques, because you can generate quite some profit from it. But the corruption I feel it has on the sanity of my mind, to do so and to manipulate so intensly, has previously kept me from doing anything such "smart". It is disgusting. And looking what effort it requires in bending ones mind in such unhealthy locations. No, no, no.

You're overthinking this way too much. What advanta mentioned are things that would normally occur, all he's explaining is how you can use prediction to benefit from the more known and less known exploits if you can put 2+2 together and figure out the aftermath of the market after exploits are fixed. This can be done without posting anything on the forums.

[advanta]

You're overthinking this way too much. What advanta mentioned are things that would normally occur, all he's explaining is how you can use prediction to benefit from the more known and less known exploits if you can put 2+2 together and figure out the aftermath of the market after exploits are fixed. This can be done without posting anything on the forums.

Yup. Classic example: the shore crawler class trial exploit. I didn't deceive any one about that: I said specifically that it wasn't a good idea to dump it for a gift price on the AH. But people will do it anyway. Once you see the shore crawlers on the ah for a song you know you can buy them up and sell post-fix for a fortune. That way you make a ton of gold and you personally have done nothing Blizzard can pin on you. This makes it very difficult to Blizzard to respond effectively: they may be playing into our hands by hotfixing it. Or they may not, it ends up as pure game theory.

I take crunk's point about corruption. It is easy to become enamoured of clever psychological ploys and manipulation and become rather cynical and nasty. All I can say is that I'm keenly aware of that danger.

[Jaladhjin]

I for one am not surprised to hear security researchers research security

[SmileMoar]

I always thought it was silently understood by everyone. You know something so obvious it didn't need saying aloud. :/

[TommyT]

least i gave you guys something to talk about i just found the video amusing when he linked the forum