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    2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    As you may know, 2.3 patch nerfs Model Editing, we could make a "trip" with Model Editing to somewhere, like some good user of NoggIt could raise land so we could make gnomes and run some where in Orgrimmar with chars named something about against nerf of model editing and no-one could attack us there and all the hordies would see us just a day before 2.3 releasing.

    Pointless? Maybe, but its like the Last Wallwalking...


    Is it good idea?


    It is still possible to use model edit, but if some1 publices Model Edit fix, blizzard will nerf it (again) in matter of time...

    Quote about what Chazwazza said about 2.3 patch:
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    Okay, I have some bad news, infact, some VERY BAD ****ING NEWS. In short, Blizzard have nerfed model editing, and they've done a very good job at doing it.

    The problem:
    Blizzard has TOTALLY DISABLED loading of arbitrary MPQs, that means, if you put a patch-x.mpq or w.e in your data folder it WILL NOT get loaded, period. So WoW won't even crash because of an invalid file, it will just ignore the MPQ that shouldn't be there. This spells bad news because without the MPQ data being loaded, a fix to patch the sig check isn't going to work.

    Also, according to a friend of mine who knows a fair bit about warden he has given me information that Warden may or may not be scanning for arbitray MPQs (he hasn't verified this yet). This means, even if you force WoW to load the MPQ files, then you've got Warden waiting to ass**** you as soon as the file loads.

    The fix:
    A fix is possible, I know how to do it, but I will not be releasing any more public fixes, it's clear Blizzard want's this dead, so I belive that from now on it's best that this stuff is kept as underground as possible, so those of us that do have the knowledge required to hack these things aren't ass****ing ourselves. Prior to 2.3 it wasn't a problem, because Blizzard didn't seem to care much about model editing, now they do, and they care big time. As such, all fixes that I choose to code (IF i choose to code them, I don't model edit at the moment so i see no reason to) will be kept private, I realise this may upset a lot of people but that's too bad I'm sorry, Blizzard wants this dead and buried and I'm not about to ruin my own chances of having a working fix just so some randoms can BG hack for a couple more patches.

    The method:
    I shall give a hint as to how this would be possible to fix, but I will not give any more information than what is posted here, nor will I answer any PMs regarding the topic.
    I belive it would be possible to force WoW to load the MPQ files by detouring the code responsible for loading the MPQ files currently and patching in the code to load arbitrary files. Be careful of doing this though, code detours are highly detected by warden, there are methods around this but I will not discuss these either (I don't want them nerfed, some of my private stuff uses them). Also, you will need to be careful about warden checking for the extra MPQ files being loaded, not just for the code detour, so make sure if you're going to try and write a new fix you know what you're doing.

    Anyway, in short, model editing is "nerfed". It is still possible with the right skills and knowledge, but I will no longer be releasing my fixes to the public, Blizz wants this dead, and they're not going to stop until it is."

    Anyway, who wanna join?
    If no-one joins, I'll have to do something alone ;P

    I will do this in Stormreaver (EU)

    Also, I wanna know what are you guys thinking about 2.3 patch.

    2.3 nerfs Model Editing
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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Actually, it's a quite good idea... Do you play Alliance or Horde?

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Demonkunga?! come do the thing u do!
    (The MAGIC powers o_O)

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Just pack your edits inside patch-2.mpq or patch-2-enUS.mpq
    That will work just fine when 2.3 comes live.

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Originally Posted by Demonkunga View Post
    Just pack your edits inside patch-2.mpq or patch-2-enUS.mpq
    That will work just fine when 2.3 comes live.
    Ee? Thats how we usually model edit? Or what do you mean? ;P

    Originally Posted by DragonWaxter View Post
    Actually, it's a quite good idea... Do you play Alliance or Horde?
    Alli
    Last edited by Kartio; 10-15-2007 at 11:56 AM.

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Put your edited files in Blizzard's patch-2.mpq or patch-2-enUS.mpq.
    Just don't make your own MPQ, and your fine.

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    and how because last time i tried to insert it with mpq editor wow crashed

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    I was just going to say that DK. Put your ME's inside other blizard released model edits. They can't disable those, or the game would be messed up.

    Current Record Holder: Most times banned on MMOwned

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Hmm.. Ok, now I understand, but it makes the Model Editing kinda harder... Imo :P

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Originally Posted by Phail6123 View Post
    Hmm.. Ok, now I understand, but it makes the Model Editing kinda harder... Imo :P
    that might be a good thing tho

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    My wow crashes when i tried packing it into patch-2.mpq. what do i do?

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    I'm in for this, eventhough I suck at Model Editing.

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    Originally Posted by Demonkunga View Post
    Put your edited files in Blizzard's patch-2.mpq or patch-2-enUS.mpq.
    Just don't make your own MPQ, and your fine.
    Won't work it checks the files to see if they have been changed.

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    Re: 2.3 nerfs Model Editing

    I agree with thundercake.

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