[Loreh] Why Lich King is stronger than Kil'jaeden

[Arthas117]

I can't delete the topic, somehow :S

[Verye]

You may know 80% of WoW lore, but you know 0% of internal Blizzard workings.

Way to block me.

[Killer_Dajobe]

... OK kil'jaeden Created the lich king to use as a "Weapon" But Ner'zhul was a sneeky bugger and wasnt the "YES SIR!" type, he was doing hes own things and disobeying kil'jaedens commands, so he was tortured for a long time, and then he Ripped out hes soul and bound it to some armor (hence why ner'zhul fused with arthas when he put the helm on) and kil'jaeden imprissoned him in a icecube, LOLPWND and then sent him to azeroth, but Ner'zhul wants revenge and has been testing hes poweres on the villages nearby, turning them into undead. with hes power he was able to make a Fissure in the prison and he pushed Frostmourne out of it and told hes minions to take it far away for a new (hero) and then he maked a big army and then arthas found the sword, u know the rest

THATS how i heard it anyway

[Killer_Dajobe]

and lich king is just stronger because he is.

[Arthas117]

and lich king is just stronger because he is

It's said on wowwiki.com that The Lich King wasn't as strong as Kil'jaeden... But when Arthas and Lich king became one, The Lich King became stronger than Kil'jaeden...

[Solera]

To reiterate what Arthas said, The Lich King IS NOT stronger than Kil'jaeden while alone, however, he IS stronger than Kil'jaeden when merged with Arthas.

Kil'jaeden vs. Ner'zhul = Kil'jaeden wins.
Kil'jaeden vs. Ner'zhul + Arthas (= The Lich King) = Lich King wins.

[Arthas117]

To reiterate what Arthas said, The Lich King IS NOT stronger than Kil'jaeden while alone, however, he IS stronger than Kil'jaeden when merged with Arthas.

Kil'jaeden vs. Ner'zhul = Kil'jaeden wins.
Kil'jaeden vs. Ner'zhul + Arthas (= The Lich King) = Lich King wins.

"Owh... How mad of me... I didn't even explain"

Thanks dear donator xD :P

[Arthas117]

Lol I'm gonna make my own Lore Website with the "update lore" :P

[yarfangor]

:O this is heart breaking I Lol'd hard at the KJ youtube vid but now im just sad.

[Jarl]

Ner'zhul is a shaman or rather was a shaman

[l8flip]

This post if full of flaws and assumptions.
You know nothing of lore.
This post honestly sucks.

* Nerzhul was a shaman, not a warlock
* If he was a warlock, Gul'dan was more powerful.
* Please show me a link where Blizzard states he was as powerful as Archimonde
* Archimonde is not Kil'jaedens brother
* Your post is full of "so he became.." "so he is more powerful.." but there's no sources, so they're only YOUR assumptions.
* You say "Bla bla he was the most powerful mortal warlock bla bla" so what if he was the most powerful mortal, theres tons of immortals that are more powerful.
And for that matter I dont think he was mortal. (by the sense of dying of old age)

[dude891]

Yeah, I don't know much about lore but I think Archimonde was Kil'Jaeden's Friend, not brother. Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, and Velen were all drainei and they were friends until they were going to follow sargeous' orders. Velen thought it wasn't a good idea to follow sargeous' orders so he gathered up as many drainei as he could and they flew a ship to the outlands. All of the drainei that listened to Velen are the drainei we know in game. Thats pretty much all I know about lore.

[Arthas117]

This post if full of flaws and assumptions.
You know nothing of lore.
This post honestly sucks.

* Nerzhul was a shaman, not a warlock
* If he was a warlock, Gul'dan was more powerful.
* Please show me a link where Blizzard states he was as powerful as Archimonde
* Archimonde is not Kil'jaedens brother
* Your post is full of "so he became.." "so he is more powerful.." but there's no sources, so they're only YOUR assumptions.
* You say "Bla bla he was the most powerful mortal warlock bla bla" so what if he was the most powerful mortal, theres tons of immortals that are more powerful.
And for that matter I dont think he was mortal. (by the sense of dying of old age)

lol you're right, but that with "nothing of lore", you cant be serious...

Because I wrote warlock instead of shaman (I wasn't right about his class), does that change my whole look on lore? Also, you broke rule 1 on MMOwned:

1. This site is a familar site, be so to each others

If you're as great nolife as you dont care about rules, then just leave this site now please...

No sources? Have you ever been viewing those interviews with programers from Blizzard? Your IQ value is like 50 right?

And also, you must have learnt by only playing wc2 and wc3 thru, but you should try Main Page - WoWWiki instead

[Arthas117]

Yeah, I don't know much about lore but I think Archimonde was Kil'Jaeden's Friend, not brother. Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, and Velen were all drainei and they were friends until they were going to follow sargeous' orders. Velen thought it wasn't a good idea to follow sargeous' orders so he gathered up as many drainei as he could and they flew a ship to the outlands. All of the drainei that listened to Velen are the drainei we know in game. Thats pretty much all I know about lore.

After reading a while on wowwiki, actually you're right, they didnt tell us Kil'jaeden and Archimonde are brothers, but in Tales of The Past III, Jaina said

Jaina: "Remember the Battle of Mount Hyjal?"
Thrall: "Yes, I was there myself"
Jaina: "While Archimonde was there, still, his brother, Kil'jaeden, was still in command of The Burning Legion"

So I still believe in that Archimonde and Kil'jaeden are brothers, and only friends to Velen... But I don't know that much about Argus, I know most of Arthas betrayal, Illidan's betrayal, The Creation of Azeroth and stuff... :P

[Arthas117]

* Please show me a link where Blizzard states he was as powerful as Archimonde

I didn't say that? No, I didn't! Archimonde IS defeatable in Hyjal Summit, and he was getting underpowered when Kil'jaeden uhm did something xD

Ok, lets take it this way...

Archimonde = 5
Kil'jaden (half summoned in Sunwell) = 7
Kil'jaden (all summoned) = 14
Arthas = 10
Ner'zhul = 10
Arthas + Ner'zhul = 20, Lich King

Hmm, understand now? o.O