Project: Gilneas

[Xalah]

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[Satori]

There are these NPC's in Stormglen if you escape before the Gilneas City phase is over. They are only here during that phase and as far as I know are not in the actual storyline at all. I noticed if I logged out and back in during one of the later phases that they appear for a short while and then disappear because of the phasing. After seeing that I tried logging out and back in at other spots in the zone and noticed that a lot of the NPC's will also appear briefly and then phase back out. But I only got vid of the ones in Stormglen.

Gilneas Phasing - YouTube

[zaeBOOST]

Easy Force HS method(tested):
Get into a heroic raid. You must be locked to at least one boss. Log off and wait until the weekly reset is done. Login and voila - HS Location.

[zaeBOOST]

And another thing, there isn't any "hidden city" under gilneas. Those are just MMO Models that Blizzard threw there when developing the map so it'd be easier to copy-paste them.

[istnuk]

I wonder is it possible to fly in phased Gilneas on a high level character? I don't currently have a char to try it. But to reach the "city" underground would you only need a goblin glider and it would be a piece of cake becuse the houses are well above the death line.
Pictures related, I could not get closer to the houses on a lvl 1 worgen.

[WizardTrokair]

And another thing, there isn't any "hidden city" under gilneas. Those are just MMO Models that Blizzard threw there when developing the map so it'd be easier to copy-paste them.

...and we call those leftover MMO Models a "hidden city". Just like we call the two pairs of buildings under Tanaris the "underwater Goblin City". It is called being romantic. If you're going to hang out with the explorers, you should get used to it.

the houses are well above the death line.

In my experience, the houses are actually well below the death line. How did you take the image above?

[istnuk]

If you haven't done any quests in Gilneas and head to silverpine and just head north. There is this big line going through the zone (picture related.). The buildings is almost directly below it and all I did was to jump down to take a better look. This is how noticed I didn't die until I was a good bit under the houses. Hard to see in the second picture but the houses are straight below me.

[WizardTrokair]

There is this big line going through the zone (picture related.). The buildings is almost directly below it and all I did was to jump down to take a better look. This is how noticed I didn't die until I was a good bit under the houses.

Oh, I'm aware, istnuk. If you missed it, I am the "Trokair" in this video, done at Level 1:
http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...ouse-city.html (Gilneas: The Hidden House and City.)

We jumped down as well, in both Online and Offline mode. In Offline mode I am able to land on one of the buildings and jump around, as the death line doesn't kill you... but it is still well below the death line (camera doesn't follow). When done Online, I am dead well before I land on the building. This is why I'm trying to figure out how you took that image, with your camera at the level of the building, and how you are not dying until you are "a good bit under the houses". It is as if you have a different death line than we do, which makes no sense if you are also Lv 1...

[Strangletusk]

This is why I'm trying to figure out how you took that image, with your camera at the level of the building...

Didn't VoTuUS release a way of resetting the camera via a simple macro? I can't quite remember the macro (it's something like /script resetcamera=0 or something like that) but I'm pretty sure they did release a way. Probs your best bet to look into that man.

[istnuk]

but it is still well below the death line (camera doesn't follow). When done Online, I am dead well before I land on the building. This is why I'm trying to figure out how you took that image, with your camera at the level of the building, and how you are not dying until you are "a good bit under the houses". It is as if you have a different death line than we do, which makes no sense if you are also Lv 1...

Ah now I understand, that is pretty strange. I have now done the same jump 4 times with the same character and so far everytime the camera stop following and I die is below the houses. Will try with a new lvl 1 worgen to see if that is diffrent.

And to Strangletusk. I didn't use any macro to do this.


Edit: I now tried with a lvl 1 worgen rogue and he also died below the houses.

[WizardTrokair]

istnuk, I'd still like to hear your findings when you go back with a new Lv 1 Worgen again... but I've given this some time and come up with some thoughts...

Looking back at your images, you are jumping off at the "large crack" that runs through the zone. IIRC, you are in an "Unknown" zone once you pass the edge of that crack. Looking back at Satori's video, we were jumping off at the "square hole" that is a little ways from the crack. When we passed the edge of the hole, we were zoning into "Silverpine Forest". My theory is that perhaps these zoned areas have a different death line? This could be one possible explanation for the camera difference! Will only take a bit of testing once I get home to confirm (or someone else can take up the torch).

[istnuk]

Looking back at your images, you are jumping off at the "large crack" that runs through the zone. IIRC, you are in an "Unknown" zone once you pass the edge of that crack. Looking back at Satori's video, we were jumping off at the "square hole" that is a little ways from the crack. When we passed the edge of the hole, we were zoning into "Silverpine Forest". My theory is that perhaps these zoned areas have a different death line?

So I am back and I can comfirm that the non unkown zone have their deathline much much further up, I barely jumped through before I died. Tried on several characters too.

[zaeBOOST]

I was playing around with disabling CRZ and I got a working Forced Hearth tested:
1) Get PeerBlock
2) Enable PeerBlock
3) Zone into Deepholm(note that you can zone wherever you want)
4) Quickly disable PeerBlock
5) Press View History
6) Find the latest IP in the destination tab that has the port 3724(For Example: 195.123.456.14:3724)
7) Right-click it and block it permenantly
Enable Peerblock while still being in Deepholm
9) Que up for a Scenario or an Instance
10) Once in, close wow and wait for 30 minutes.
11) Log back in, server will now try to kick you back to deepholm but it will fail since it is blocked, now Blizzard also fixed the NoCRZ exploit so what happens is you get Force-Heathed


If you are a lowlevel, you can do the exact same thing, but instead of zoning into Deepholm, you can try something like elwynn forest or durotar.


Voila! Welcome to Gilneas.

[WizardTrokair]

Most people here are looking for a way to do this without 3rd party programs. Things like PeerBlock are generally frowned upon in the Exploration forum. Although, in a case like returning to the starting zone, I'm sure some people will still want to use this.

I wonder if only steps 9 and 10 are needed? You mention in step 11 that the game should try to kick you back to Deepholm... but as I mentioned earlier, every time I log into WoW after having logged out (for over 30 minutes) in a scenario, I always end up at my hearth location. I've not tried it with a glitched Worgen, but I wonder if it is that simple?