Felslate ban wave - do this to save ur gold!

[Mahizzta]

You guys should be happy it's a 14 days ban. I got perm banned, with NO chance of appealing for doing the Darkmoon trinket exploit in Cata, and back then you couldn't make close to the amount you just made from this exploit.

[MrClue]

trouble with this is you're connecting an account tained by exploiting to one that may not be..

Not really if you do it the right way. There are so many untraceable ways you could do to be safe

[Jamesbeam]

Not really if you do it the right way. There are so many untraceable ways you could do to be safe

I don't know why you tell people this bullshit. We ran a similar thing in WotLK with a node respawning exploit below Wintergrasp and even if it took Blizzard four months they banned all of our mules, the guild banks we stored excess gold that we put away to not crash the gold market and banned about 80% of our customers for economy abuse they believed were part of our round-robin chain of mules. We had about 1200 Paypal chargebacks and had to trash all of those accounts too.

You can not move items in WoW from A to B without leaving a trail for Blizz. If it takes too much manpower and they have the feeling that you did this in an organized group instead of being just a kid trying to make some token money because you read something on a public forum they will find and ban every single account you used even if they are not directly involved and thereby freeze all assets.

Everyone who makes six figures a month with exploiting that game will never touch a public forum exploit, because this is exactly what happens. You get your 14 days ban and at a later point after about 8 weeks when you can not charge back your gametime / legion they will hit you with a six month or permaban. If it severely impacts the economy, it probably already has because it triggered suspensions ranging from 14 days to permament, they will probably now look into a way to fix it and flag all accounts that you traded / sold that ore too including on the Auction house.

Expect to see people cry tears in 14 days because they got permanently banned directly after the unban if Blizz does not find a way to automate the removal of the illegal aquired assets.

[Ehnoah]

Just want to see if they get all gold removed. Would lough :P Happen to me once^^

[xsunrise]

I don't know why you tell people this bullshit. We ran a similar thing in WotLK with a node respawning exploit below Wintergrasp and even if it took Blizzard four months they banned all of our mules, the guild banks we stored excess gold that we put away to not crash the gold market and banned about 80% of our customers for economy abuse they believed were part of our round-robin chain of mules. We had about 1200 Paypal chargebacks and had to trash all of those accounts too.

You can not move items in WoW from A to B without leaving a trail for Blizz. If it takes too much manpower and they have the feeling that you did this in an organized group instead of being just a kid trying to make some token money because you read something on a public forum they will find and ban every single account you used even if they are not directly involved and thereby freeze all assets.

Everyone who makes six figures a month with exploiting that game will never touch a public forum exploit, because this is exactly what happens. You get your 14 days ban and at a later point after about 8 weeks when you can not charge back your gametime / legion they will hit you with a six month or permaban. If it severely impacts the economy, it probably already has because it triggered suspensions ranging from 14 days to permament, they will probably now look into a way to fix it and flag all accounts that you traded / sold that ore too including on the Auction house.

Expect to see people cry tears in 14 days because they got permanently banned directly after the unban if Blizz does not find a way to automate the removal of the illegal aquired assets.

Finally someone else that gets how it works lol i guess experience is the best lesson hah.
I laugh at the people that think they save cuz they shipped of the gold to a bank or other char.

[xsunrise]

Not really if you do it the right way. There are so many untraceable ways you could do to be safe

How clueless can you be ROFL

[MrClue]

Finally someone else that gets how it works lol i guess experience is the best lesson hah.
I laugh at the people that think they save cuz they shipped of the gold to a bank or other char.

You are an insane retard, if you belive you cant make exploited items untraceable. During the Battered hilt exploit a few years back, i managed to hide over 40 battered hilts from blizzard, whithout them ever finding out.

[TehVoyager]

You guys should be happy it's a 14 days ban.

Except usuailly 2 week bans are automated. there sadly is still the chance of that being revised up into a permaban.

[Jamesbeam]

You are an insane retard, if you belive you cant make exploited items untraceable. During the Battered hilt exploit a few years back, i managed to hide over 40 battered hilts from blizzard, whithout them ever finding out.

You must be twelve or something. First of all that was no exploit, that was a patch error where they misplaced a decimal point in the drop rate in the loot table. An exploit is when you can reliably reproduce a bug in the software that you can get an advantage from, sometimes that means you can teleport, other times it means you can respawn mobs / nodes intentionally with a 100% chance.

Being able to farm an item at a higher drop chance is no exploit. If you danced around some skeletons and then used a combination of spells on them that would have given you a hilt per reset, that would have been an exploit.

Nobody should ever trust any of your advice if you are that stupid.

Because it was no exploit, you did not "hide" shit. Everyone who grinded those hilts could keep them.
Now stop giving bad advise and crawl back into the hole you came out from Mr Clueless.

[MrClue]

Im pretty sure you are a ****ing idiot. Using cheat engine to change a quests id, and afterwards being able to optain a hilt is not an exploit? I have no other words to say.
KYS

[bboystyle82]

The last gold exploit i got banned for (200k for the x-realm treasure loot bug) i ended up spending half of it on AH items(rare mounts and pets), then exchanging the items for small amounts of gold to a friend who held onto the items. The other half of the gold i bought a few "epic" BoE's from another friend and he held onto that gold. Once the ban was up (6 months) i got the AH items back and sold them for even more then what i got them for. The BoE items i bought got deleted and so did my remaining 10k gold but my friend still had the 100k, and he gave it back (the BoE's i bought from him were firelands drops).

There is a way to go around it but you have to deal with other people who dont play on the same PC as you because Blizz can track that.

[AlucardoG]

Sry for the bat englisch
I talk withe a gm today .
The Gm say only 14 days bann .
Not more and not delet enywhat.

[sarskever]

I don't know why you tell people this bullshit. We ran a similar thing in WotLK with a node respawning exploit below Wintergrasp and even if it took Blizzard four months they banned all of our mules, the guild banks we stored excess gold that we put away to not crash the gold market and banned about 80% of our customers for economy abuse they believed were part of our round-robin chain of mules. We had about 1200 Paypal chargebacks and had to trash all of those accounts too.

You can not move items in WoW from A to B without leaving a trail for Blizz. If it takes too much manpower and they have the feeling that you did this in an organized group instead of being just a kid trying to make some token money because you read something on a public forum they will find and ban every single account you used even if they are not directly involved and thereby freeze all assets.

Everyone who makes six figures a month with exploiting that game will never touch a public forum exploit, because this is exactly what happens. You get your 14 days ban and at a later point after about 8 weeks when you can not charge back your gametime / legion they will hit you with a six month or permaban. If it severely impacts the economy, it probably already has because it triggered suspensions ranging from 14 days to permament, they will probably now look into a way to fix it and flag all accounts that you traded / sold that ore too including on the Auction house.

Expect to see people cry tears in 14 days because they got permanently banned directly after the unban if Blizz does not find a way to automate the removal of the illegal aquired assets.

I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Claiming the systems/effort blizzard puts in finding and punishing exploiters are flawless is as silly as claiming you're 100% safe if you use x way to secure your items/gold.

I've been banned for botting/exploiting on over 5 characters. Even used 100% exploits like flyhacks that allowed you to gather under the world. I've always been mailing every bit of profit I mailed to my main character, most of the times directly through ingame mail, sometimes using a guildbank. Not once has my main character been touched, I've never had any gold removed, any items removed, nothing.

So while there is always a risk involved I can surely say that blizzard is rather lazy and there are many exploiters that are not being punished.

[Hapiguy]

As a former GM on a completely unrelated game that had NOWHERE near the level of tracking and logging that Blizz uses, I can honestly say that if you think they can't see each and every thing you do... you're a ****ing moron.
Whether or not they bother to look, or whether or not you're on the radar is another story, but to ASSUME that you've snuck anything by is moronic at best.
You're either too minuscule to be considered, or they simply haven't taken the time and/or effort to do any in-depth digging.
You have to assume on a margin of error in a game with a population this large, but when something so blatantly overt occurs, like the felslate exploit, it's just SCREAMING for the unwanted attention.
There's a reason that people frequently ask users to 'post to elite', and it has mainly to do with the fact that when you've got far too many people, doing far too much shady shit at the same time, it's incredibly obvious. Whereas, when it's a smaller, select group, it's less likely to be plucked out of the air on a whim, because it's not as blatant. Nothing is EVER fool-proof, or 'safe'.