RAoV Dupes

[sed-]

i would highly advise against doing the guild bank dupe as that was mass abused in mop and got me + friend ip banned and i personally lost 4 accounts. (dummy account i duped on and 3 others that had no contact with main) all on the same ip ofc because i didnt realise blizz takes such a strong action towards dupes lol

[advanta]

They trace back to your main; trust me. It's best not to even bother with any of these exploits unless you have proxies/remote mac addresses.

Mind you, once you complete the dupe; what are you going to do with the gold/items? If you bring them anywhere near your main, you're risking everything. It's difficult to wash the duped stuff. You can dupe -> buy stuff on AH-> dupe -> buy stuff on AH-> repeat(); haha, i guess that's the safest way to wash the gold?

Disclaimer: I'm not a duper. I don't dupe.

However, I do have some experience washing substantial amounts of money through online poker rooms and other similar activities. It is the same basic problem that you get with any activity where you have an operator, a hacker, exploiter or other deviant scum (like myself) trying to cash out, who is trying to hide his tracks.

The primary way to do this without getting caught is to keep the amounts small. It is not cost-effective for larger bureaucratic organizations to police small transactions. If you are not greedy, you won't get caught, unless you happen to get hit by a random investigation (second-order neglgible probability). The difficulty is that your profits from said activity are quite limited in any short space of time. Ultimately Blizzard can't spend more money in terms of Labour costs on going after dupers than they save the game economy-a company that repeatedly makes irrational financial decisions by definition will go broke.

The secondary way to do this is to pass amounts of money into the general population. If you sell twenty spectral tigers to randoms and one to an alt account, then Blizzard have a real headache because they don't know who patient zero is in that context. They can't ban everyone, especially as the tigers may get sold on. If they ban hundreds of innocent people, there will be consequences for them. The problem here is inflationary pressure.

Third way, and I suspect this is what RAOV is doing here, is publicize dupe A and watch Blizzard's enforcement operation swing into effect on the known threat. Then no one is looking at you while you take the piss and use dupe B. The resources available to prevent dupe B are very limited because of the focus on A and the army of amateur dupers you've just unleashed.

Fourth way is speculate somehow on a falling market. People do this in the stock market by short-selling. I can't think of a way to do this in wow without some kind of private contract (perhaps there is somebody making money as an insurance broker on certain high-ticket items), but there are probably are several others

Fifth way would be to steal your own account remotely, claim it back as the "original" holder. If the dupes remain on your account sell them. If they don't you could credibly claim the phantom thief is responsible.

There are many other possibilities for the commited. I just mention all this because the traditional "you will get banned" response to this type of thread doesn't really do the potential of dupe methods justice. You'll get banned if you flood the market and don't hide your tracks. If you try and put down some cover it becomes a very complex, high-risk/high return branch of game theory.

[xcrossover25x]

This shit excites me. I hope one day I'll be able to do this kind of thing. I have no idea how to get started though.

[KuRIoS]

This shit excites me. I hope one day I'll be able to do this kind of thing. I have no idea how to get started though.

The OP said it well. Work out from the videos in here and search for your own "angle" on it.

[sed-]

The OP said it well. Work out from the videos in here and search for your own "angle" on it.

yep, get ideas and always think how can i exploit this. what can i do to block this from happening and see what happens. its all about thinking outside of the box and it all starts with i wonder what would happen if ____.

[cdmichaelb]

This video is private.

Sorry about that.

[Jojogo]

They trace back to your main; trust me. It's best not to even bother with any of these exploits unless you have proxies/remote mac addresses.

Mind you, once you complete the dupe; what are you going to do with the gold/items? If you bring them anywhere near your main, you're risking everything. It's difficult to wash the duped stuff. You can dupe -> buy stuff on AH-> dupe -> buy stuff on AH-> repeat(); haha, i guess that's the safest way to wash the gold?

Blizzard only bans the license that you used the exploit on, so if you do it on a secondary license under the same battlenet account, your main account will not be punished. However in some cases they end up removing mounts from your battlenet as a whole, as least that's coming from my friend who dupes a lot, and has had his licenses closed a few times, but never his main license (because he didn't dupe on it).

[dgcarl]

Blizzard only bans the license that you used the exploit on, so if you do it on a secondary license under the same battlenet account, your main account will not be punished. However in some cases they end up removing mounts from your battlenet as a whole, as least that's coming from my friend who dupes a lot, and has had his licenses closed a few times, but never his main license (because he didn't dupe on it).

Have you ever heared ip ban? Or did you ever checked bot users threads on forums? They can (and they probably will) ban all the accounts connected to exploit using one. Specially if they are under same battlenet account and logging in from same ip.

MAC adress, hardware id, ip adress, who you are passing duped items/gold..wtc there are so many ways for them to trace it back to your main.

[phansawat]

Ooooh boy here we go again... I stil remember rollback dupe!

[Sklug]

Have you ever heared ip ban? Or did you ever checked bot users threads on forums? They can (and they probably will) ban all the accounts connected to exploit using one. Specially if they are under same battlenet account and logging in from same ip.

MAC adress, hardware id, ip adress, who you are passing duped items/gold..wtc there are so many ways for them to trace it back to your main.

You are right, though I will say, they typically won't run an IP ban on you across all accounts if you are a first-time offender. But, repeat offender? I've seen people lose a dozen new accounts within 1 hour of getting em online and only 1 account running a bot. The reality is is that it one, is automatically suspicious when someone does this kind of behavior, so my guess is it flags them for an auto-review, and unless they verify the person is just a multi-boxer, it is likely they will get another mass ban.

A lot of people I've talked to that think they are safe because the run through a VPN or something from their previously banned IPs, are unaware one, of other ways to identify, but also unaware that blizz logs IPs when you just go to the webpage battle.net as well so while they only logged in the game screened, they still logged into battle.net without it. Or, even used the same credit card to pay for the account. Also, just by using a VPN, especially one of those shared IP VPNs, probably flags your account for immediate review as well. Anything that ties you to previous accounts with suspicious activities will red flag your account. Blizz does not manually review all botting, as it would be impossible to with spending a fortune on staff. However, what they do have is software analysis. This does not run on everyone all the time. That would be unnecessarily expensive and computationally taxing. No, if an account has been reported OR it has been linked to previous banned account, my guess is then the software kicks in for analysis.

[crunk001]

yep, get ideas and always think how can i exploit this. what can i do to block this from happening and see what happens. its all about thinking outside of the box and it all starts with i wonder what would happen if ____.

very well put, thats the key to life and it all starts with oneself, with myself, I

not with what is out there and searching endlessly. everyone holds the key to success within themselves +rep


Edit: who cares Sklug and others... god you people are so tight in your brain. It is about finding what works and once you have found it you do not care if you lose it or not. You can reproduce it endlessly. Can you understand this? You dont need a fort knox to safeguard your treasure because you hold it in immaterial form in your mind. That is what makes people successful, NOT carying about their "treasure" because they know they have an inner source of it that is infinite. This is a real feeling, a knowing.

I invite you and others to get into this position to understand it and it's glory at least once in your life, with anything that you are good at (this is how it starts, that you get the feeling of it, the feeling is always the same - regardless of what you do. Its the energetic fingerprint, and this feeling you "copy" over to whatever you want to start next. And then you Know you are successful because you have done it once and can do it forever...

"oh my god they could ban my freshly bought starter account on which I have managed to dupe 100k gold, i need to save it fast" - do you even read yourself? you can produce trillions if you are clever, with billions of accounts...

[netops]

Hope you guys enjoying it ;p

For everybody's info alot of these dupes are from our archive/last few years. So the good ones are already sold long time ago for some good $. Shorty posted this to give the community an indepth look in duping.

The way you post, it makes it seem like you where involved.

[Kevinator]

I've managed to do the guild bank dupe "rush orders" was sick as hell, attempted the gold vendor one with the unique items, does not work, most likely fixed. Great job though!

[markons]

One I like the most is Timeless isle chest dupe. You get coins and that is Ok but you also get gear that can you can vendor for pure gold without the risk, or less risk to your account....

[juliye]

The way you post, it makes it seem like you where involved.

If you'd just only read the first post that OP wrote, it clearly stated "A huge shout out to Dome and Jysticim, these guys have helped build RAoV to what it is known today. I don't think our history will ever see the publics eye but its been a great couple of years, and hope all gain something from this as I have.".