Cheese Heroic Garrosh Phase 4.

[newsneez]

We did this ourselves on 10man Heroic.

For this to work, you need the suicide dagger from Isle of Thunder(ToT Isle).

When you reach phase 4 on Heroic, the boss will cast Malice on you, now instead of stacking inside it, and moving out with the debuff, you can instantly kill yourself with malice on you, and be ressed afterwards.

The reason for Garrosh being cheesed this way is because he wont get any energy from the malice, and therefore you can EXTEND the times between getting the ball(taking insane dmg).

On 10 man, you can only be ressed once, but if you've got shamans you can ahnk them up afterwards.

So this way of cheesing is alot easier on 25 man :>

The whole exploit thing in this, is that you're using a world item to get rid of a mechanic inside a raid.
(Previous items, such as the taunting dude-item on durumu was fixed to not be useable inside raid instances any longer).

[TOM_RUS]

I'm wondering why this is in elite when it was posted on mmo-champion few days ago?

Overture exploiting heroic garrosh?

[Laykith]

I'm wondering why this is in elite when it was posted on mmo-champion few days ago?

Overture exploiting heroic garrosh?

Yeah. Should be in Normal Exploits.

[Eryx]

Yeah. Should be in Normal Exploits.

Consider it done.

[oppiz2]

There is no exploit in this. It's the same as letting the person with Malice die and rezzing him after. Unless CR is an exploit in mister newsneez's eyes.

[newsneez]

There is no exploit in this. It's the same as letting the person with Malice die and rezzing him after. Unless CR is an exploit in mister newsneez's eyes.

The exploit lies in the ability to use an item to instantly kill yourself, thus ignoring the key ability of that phase.

Items as such, have recently been fixed to not be useable inside raids, due to similar effects.

[^oximo^]

Suicide is not that hard, especially on heroic garrosh P4. Every paladin/warrior/dk/druid/monk can taunt the boss and will be dead before his gcd recovers back...

[newsneez]

Suicide is not that hard, especially on heroic garrosh P4. Every paladin/warrior/dk/druid/monk can taunt the boss and will be dead before his gcd recovers back...

easy to see that you havn't been there before ;>

[TommyT]

intentionally killing yourself just to rez/be rezzed is not exploiting lol

[^oximo^]

easy to see that you havn't been there before ;>

Of course I havent. But that don't seem necessary to say that suicide has almost never be hard in any event in the past, like recently frozen bite on council of elders or static shock on lei shen.

[JayPwns]

Thats what method did for worlds first

[TheQt]

Thats what method did for worlds first

AFAIK method's Mage( I think ) doing it did it because he was far away and would wipe the raid. It's also a thing that the person on the ironstar would do if htey got it (there was a video about someone whom was doing ironstars got malice multiple times)

[Jojogo]

Malice doesn't get removed when you die the normal way, it jumps to another person, with the dagger the mechanic is completely removed, which is different.

[alucard1]

• Players who are dead will now continue to emanate the full effects of Malice for the remainder of its duration.

[Eryx]

• Players who are dead will now continue to emanate the full effects of Malice for the remainder of its duration.

Confirmed on official Blizzard forums.
5.4 Hotfixes: November 12 - World of Warcraft