Getting Gladiator title with 2200 experience

[CaptianCrook]

Sounds really nice but I'm still not 100% sure, that I got it all right.
For example: I have a Team with 3 people, who all have an average MMR of 2,5k, then we invite some 4th person to this team (seems that it doesn't matter, who that person is) and now start queueing and lose every match by purpose until at least the 2 guys from the original team have a MMR of about 700. Then we start queueing with our original team again and get enemies at 2k rating, maybe even lower and for a win we ALL get high increases of personal AND teamrating? And this is even doable until 3,2k? Sounds too ridiculous to be true
So, if there wouldn't be any disadvantages for the 2 people with the low MMR I would definately try this. Please confirm if I got all the information right and nothing mixed up

The plan is to use OTHER people that want be on your final team to boost your MMR. Example: Use your partners ALTs to do this.

Once your MMR is boosted you help your teammates do the same thing, so it may look like this.
Teammate 1
Teammate 2
Teammate 3

Alt 1, Alt 2 , Teammate 1 = Boost Teammate 1's MMR
Alt 2, Alt 3, Teammate 2 = Boost Teammate 2's MMR
Alt 1, Alt 3 , Teammate 3 = Boost Teammates 3's MMR
Teammate 1 , Teammate 2, Teammate 3 = Final team

Hope this helped.

[Aerosh]

What is MMR ?

[Watcher]

Match making rating. So u get to fight ppl from your rating

copy from mmo-champ Bobzor

Explanation of Match Making Rating.
Since there has been so much fuzz and confusion among new players i will try to explain the system at the best of my ability.

What does it do?
Match Making Rating(MMR) also known as "Hidden Rating" is essentially a system to keep higher ranked people with new teams from running over lower ranked players.

History
MMR was implented in season 5 due to the constant whining in TBC over high rated players creating new teams and destroying every team up to the rating where they belonged.

How does it work?
The MMR system will match you up against others as close to your MMR as possible. In a perfect world you would be fighting teams on exactly your own MMR.
Using that scenario playing 50/50 with a team on 1500 rating would cause you to remain on the same rating. While playing lets say 80/20 and you would see a major increase of your rating. And 20/80 would make you lose rating.

When you start a new team your team- and personal rating will be on 0. But lets say you have played on 2000 rating before. Then the MMR system will match you up against others on 2000 rating and winning a game would give you a drastic increase of rating while losing one wouldn't affect your rating at all.
The MMR system will keep on doing this until you get closer to 2000 rating.
The MMR system will always try to drag your team rating as close to your MMR as possible.
See below for further explanation of the arena rating system.

Explanation of arena rating system:

Team A's Current score: 1500pt
Team B's Current score: 1580pt
Team A's Chance of Winning: 1 / (1+10(1580 - 1500)/400) = 0.38686
Team B's Chance of Winning: 1 / (1+10(1500 - 1580)/400) = 0.61314
Now Let's say Team A won the battle then
Team A's New score: 1500 + 24*(1 - 0.38686) = 1500 + 14.71 = 1514.71
Team B's New Score: 1580 + 24*(0 - 0.61314) = 1580 + (-14.71) = 1565.29
Now Let's say Team B won the battle then
Team A's New Score: 1500 + 24*(0 - 0.38686) = 1500 + (-9.2 = 1490.72
Team B's New Score: 1580 + 24*(1 - 0.61314) = 1580 + 9.28 = 1589.28

24 is the max rating gained/lost.

[BALTOBOULBOBBI]

so since this isnt working for me in 2v2, is it 3v3 only?

[edizmetin]

It's not working like this for me.I play with ppl under 800MMR and mine is 2k and when we win I only get 10-20points.What do you think I do wrong? We need to get their mmr lower than 800 or what?

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Is it normal to get 15 points average or I do something wrong?

[Ilikegold]

The only question is how to find people for this without looking sketchy haha

[CaptianCrook]

It's not working like this for me.I play with ppl under 800MMR and mine is 2k and when we win I only get 10-20points.What do you think I do wrong? We need to get their mmr lower than 800 or what?

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Is it normal to get 15 points average or I do something wrong?

Your doing this correctly. If you win 30 games, 30x15=450 , now your MMR is 2450, win 30 more games, 2900 mmr.

[Wagstorm]

Your doing this correctly. If you win 30 games, 30x15=450 , now your MMR is 2450, win 30 more games, 2900 mmr.

Just to make this totally clear.

I have 2 friends.
I lower their mmr to ~400 (or lower etc).
I go win alot of battle with them.
I get so I get a high mmr.
When "the teams are getting to good"; I get my mates to lower their mmr again so we meet less good teams.
And we do this over and over again.

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This is where I get off and need some help.
What do I need the high mmr for? To get higher personal rating?
And how do I raise my friends in the quest of getting high personal rating aswell? - Do we do this all over?

Edit: Can someone explain me how mmr is any good etc?
Let's say me and my mates grind us each up to 2900 mmr each and we queue up- our team "wont" follow us up at the rating - or am I wrong? Won't we just meed some highend who will crush us?

Thanks for your help.

[vaticon]

Might just be that I am really slow, but can anyone please explain this very deep? Or make a video even. I read all the replys, but still not getting it totaly.
And is the gladiator titles calculated out from mmr, personal or team rating?
Thanks in advance!

[bkk2090]

Anytime anyone mentions this exploit on the wow forums to try and get it fixed the post is deleted. This is a well known exploit and it needs to be removed from the game. But thanks for sharing it with people who may not know.

[Aerosh]

Can you make please a guide for dummies ?

[hypexx]

Can you make please a guide for dummies ?

Would be great.

[thadd]

Guide for dummies:

Step one: Find three friends who dont give a shit about arena
Step two: Make a 3v3 team using those friends' characters
Step three: Intentionally lose TONS of games, so their mmr gets super low
Step four: Join the team on your main
Step five: win tons of games (since you tanked the mmr of those alt toons, the teams you fight will be super bad)
Step six: Every win will boost your mains mmr by 15-30. Do this until your mmr is 3000-3500.
Step seven: Once your teams mmr is super high (3000-3500), you wont lose any team/personal rating for a loss, and you'll gain 96 for a win.


The point of it is that if you have the time and patience, even if you lose 99% of all games, you will still go up team/personal rating (you will only lose mmr, but you can always boost that back up when it starts to get low again).

[Zarion]

How is it fixed like the korean team where all three members of the team has 3,2k+ (meaning all will get gladiator) can't figure this part of it. Cheers.

[thadd]

How is it fixed like the korean team where all three members of the team has 3,2k+ (meaning all will get gladiator) can't figure this part of it. Cheers.

Part of the catch with this exploit is that *eventually* you have to beat high rated teams. If you are normally a 1500 rated player you will not be able to get glad with this exploit. Those 3200 koreans are probably usually 2500 rated or something, but using this exploit every time they beat other 2500 rated players their team rating goes up by 96, and every time they lose to a 2500 team their team rating does not go down (since your team rating doesnt go down until it matches your MMR)