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    junkkiller's Avatar Banned
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    100% chance to get eye of sulfuras

    so i read the guide about how to get sulfuras and i remembered to share an exploit i found out a week ago when i got mine
    apparently if u kill ragnaros with sulfuron hammer equipped the eye have a 100% chance to drop
    i first got the idea on wowhead then i convince few guildies to try it last week and we did 5 runs consisting of 4 ppl each each grp had 1 ppl with sulfuron hammer equipped and we all got the eye
    so to conclude :
    1 gather mats for sulfuron hammer
    2 get it crafted
    3 clear mc up to ragnaros
    4 equip sulfuron hammer
    5 kill ragnaros while equipping it
    6 loot eye

    100% chance to get eye of sulfuras
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    Because having luck is obviously an exploit? :confused:

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    yes 5 grps who did this attempt based on a theory from wowhead getting same result is luck right?
    in science there is something called methodology and this is what proves its a bug/exploit and not pure luck

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    You just said it was a theory. This forum clearly states [NO "THEORIES"]

    Your move.

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    well in statistics, there's something called random variation, and your results could deviate far from the expected value, which proves it's luck, not a bug/exploit.

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    Originally Posted by Stones View Post
    well in statistics, there's something called random variation, and your results could deviate far from the expected value, which proves it's luck, not a bug/exploit.

    Well if we go by this, you could do 100 runs, and get the eye a 100 times, but it could still be really good luck, which means you could basicly never prove that it isnt just luck, when does luck stop being luck, and begin to be a fact?

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    Originally Posted by Zylin View Post
    Well if we go by this, you could do 100 runs, and get the eye a 100 times, but it could still be really good luck, which means you could basicly never prove that it isnt just luck, when does luck stop being luck, and begin to be a fact?
    When you can prove it by recreating it multiple times by multiple people.

    Sample size is always different depending on what your testing, but I've always been told the magic number of statistics is 30.

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    i know if there is one part of the two questitems than the other will drop 100%

    edit: it was two parts in the past i think... forget my post...
    Last edited by 1337pyro; 04-08-2010 at 11:28 AM.

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    isn't loot dertermend on spawn instead of on loot? so that having anything special equipped, or having some eviromental difference wouldn't make a drop, drop.
    I don't know if this is true, I heard/read it somewhere but not a real confirmation, could be nice if someone could confirm/unconfirm this

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    Loot is determined by timestamp when you enter the dungeon and the trash spawn. Nothing you can do in the dungeon alters the preselected loot except if its heroic modes

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    for ssateneth: reading must be hard eh? i said i got the theory from wowhead and tested it not posted the theory
    for bastatard : reading must be hard for you too eh? i said 5 grps did it for my experiment

    and for those who said that loot is decided upon entering the instance : ill prove you wrong with a small simple example , suppose you was shared a quest AFTER you entered the instance and this quest requires looting an item from a mob or so
    suddenly the loot table changed eh?
    please ppl im only trying to help those who want it to get it so think before posting stuff
    p.s : just to save you some heart break make sure u can equip it before u go for it cause we had a achievement whore mage who was hoping for it only to find he dont get the ach since it triggers on wield

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    and for those who said that loot is decided upon entering the instance : ill prove you wrong with a small simple example , suppose you was shared a quest AFTER you entered the instance and this quest requires looting an item from a mob or so
    suddenly the loot table changed eh?
    Always drops, only see-able with quest.

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    Originally Posted by junkkiller View Post
    and for those who said that loot is decided upon entering the instance : ill prove you wrong with a small simple example , suppose you was shared a quest AFTER you entered the instance and this quest requires looting an item from a mob or so
    suddenly the loot table changed eh?
    /facepalm. If a mob drops a quest item with a 100% drop rate it ALWAYS drop no matter what. The fact is you can only see it if you are on the quest. Hence the loot the mob would "drop" never ever changes once you load into a zone.

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    Originally Posted by skiierx131 View Post
    /facepalm. If a mob drops a quest item with a 100% drop rate it ALWAYS drop no matter what. The fact is you can only see it if you are on the quest. Hence the loot the mob would "drop" never ever changes once you load into a zone.
    always drops ya? what about items that have a certain % drop rate? does they also always drops just you cant see it sometimes and can on other? and even going on by your assumption - same case here i guess u will get to 'see' the eye if u have sulfuron hammer equipped.
    but any way im done arguing i dont need to prove if this is working or not since me and my close friends alrdy got it just trying to help you out so up to you to take it or not

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    Originally Posted by junkkiller View Post
    always drops ya? what about items that have a certain % drop rate? does they also always drops just you cant see it sometimes and can on other? and even going on by your assumption - same case here i guess u will get to 'see' the eye if u have sulfuron hammer equipped.
    but any way im done arguing i dont need to prove if this is working or not since me and my close friends alrdy got it just trying to help you out so up to you to take it or not
    Eye is not 100% drop chance. Quest items are and stay invisible as in always drop until you have the quest which "reveals" it. Loot is determined when entering due to timestamps go ask Blizzard developers.

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