[Hunter] Auto Shot Bug (DPS Increase)

[TheWarden]

There is currently a bug with the way Auto Shot queuing is done that allows a Hunter to fire faster than they should be able to. Result: A recognizable increase in DPS.

The bug ONLY appears when one uses 1:1 shot rotation macro, it cannot be done manually. (1:1 simply means Auto -> Steady -> Auto -> Steady)

Just spam a 1:1 macro (like the one below) and enjoy the DPS boost while it lasts.

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=2 !Auto Shot, Steady shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

I'm ninja'ing the proof below from one of the Hunter forums I frequent since their chart is oh-so-nice.

"Speed" is the rate you should fire at, "Cycle" is how fast you actually shoot when spamming a 1:1 macro.
Base = duh, Drums = Drums of Battle, Q/S = Quick Shots, R/F = Rapid Fire

2.9 + 117 Haste
aspd    Speed   Cycle        
Base    1.96    1.77
Drums   1.87    1.74
Q/S     1.70    1.57
R/F     1.40    1.29
        
2.8 + 117 Haste
aspd    Speed   Cycle        
Base    1.89    1.70
Drums   1.80    1.67
Q/S     1.64    1.52
R/F     1.35    1.20
    
2.8 + 0 Haste
aspd    Speed   Cycle    
Base    2.03    1.80
Drums   1.87    1.75
Q/S     1.76    1.59
R/F     1.45    1.30

[MarkeeDragon]

any one with a hunter confirm? if so plus repz

[skepter]

Personally, I don't like that macro. I find it more suitable to use the macro without the castsequence. This is what I use.

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast !Auto shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/cast steady shot

Oh and any hunter who doesn't already use a similar 1:1 SS/Auto shot macro shouldn't be raiding...

[uiy]

Too bad macros only work for BM, when higher up raiding hunters have MM and a few survival (for raid synergy)

[TheWarden]

any one with a hunter confirm? if so plus repz

I only posted this because I took the time to confirm it myself (70 Huntlar). But feel free to do your own experimentation!


[Edit]

Too bad macros only work for BM, when higher up raiding hunters have MM and a few survival (for raid synergy)

BM still offers more pure DPS than either MM or (IIRC) Survival well into T6 content. However, the added DPS from Expose Weakness is raid wide vs FI which is only for the Hunter's group...

In any case, my guild usually has 3 or so Hunters at any given time, and this really isn't the place for Hunter discussion. :/

[Frankyboy]

Bout to go test on Dr Boom. Will edit with findings

Edit: nope, doesnt work. I used aspect of the viper both tests. one with a 3:2 macro and one with the 1:1 macro posted here. the 3:2 macro yielded about 20 more DPS but i'm guessing that was just lucky crits. But, it certainly wasnt a noticeable increase with the 1:1 macro.

[TheWarden]

BRB, going to do some more testing for myself... (If not, epic fail, lol)

[Heftydogg]

This has been on hunter forums and elitist jerks. It's called clipping.

Basically you clip your shots, starting your auto shot timer before your steady is done casting. It does make you appear to shoot faster and does increase your DPS, IF you have the right attack speed.

Also I've noticed doing my own testing months ago with recount that most auto's get clipped (giving you increased DPS), but sometimes that the auto shot is skipped all together and you get 2 Steady's in a row.

Whether the dps from the slight attack speed increase outweighs the occasional missing auto shot that could land 600-1200, I don't know. I didn't crunch the numbers. I switched back to the standard 1:1 weaving after awhile.

Edit:

Also @ Skepter, the macro that you prefer is basically the same as TheWarden's. Except that his saves more lines of code and tries to use Kill Command every shot instead of randomly and hoping Kill Command is up. Also it keeps the errors away and I'm guessing takes the sound of the error away with that sfx code since you'll be spamming. Same things, just cleaner.

@ uiy Umm, these weaving macros work just as well, if not better for MM hunters because their speeds are more stable. All these macros vary on what your base speed is for your clipping since base speed effects steady shot casting time. Which will also require you to take weapon speed into consideration. So they built the end game weapons all around slow attack rates (2.8+) So the bow off Prince is about perfect attack speed for the macros.

With BM it throws off your whole speed if you get the talents that actually matter in BM. And BM hunters can do more raid DPS than a MM hunter any day if they know what they're doing and can keep their pet alive. As for Synergy, TSA is nice (trueshot aura), but FI (Ferocious Inspiration) is nicer. If any raid hunter goes survival and expects to be in the top half of the dps meters, learn that your guild just uses you for support.

[Spatz21]

You missed the macro post after 2.3 tbh. Where using the macro the 2nd person posted instead of clipping it was firing auto shots while casting steady shot, if you spammed the macro quick enough. For 1 raid we had a hunters do nearly 1.5 times the damage in raid.

[Heftydogg]

You missed the macro post after 2.3 tbh. Where using the macro the 2nd person posted instead of clipping it was firing auto shots while casting steady shot, if you spammed the macro quick enough. For 1 raid we had a hunters do nearly 1.5 times the damage in raid.

Look at the macros. They do the same thing. Both should clip the autoshots when spammed.

[Patchumz]

That macro lets you autoshot WHILE casting Steady Shot, This has been this way since.. like.. 2.3.3 or something.. OLD..

[Spatz21]

Look at the macros. They do the same thing. Both should clip the autoshots when spammed.

Not to full effect of what the macro was doing. Sometimes you would get 2 steadys and 3 auto shots off in same amount of time as 1 steady and 1 auto shot

It was properly bugged.

[draxer2233]

Knew about this one ;x

[sakalas1234]

very nice man

[pandaman]

Look at the macros. They do the same thing. Both should clip the autoshots when spammed.

Not at all, a castsequence will wait regardless of how much you spam, you won't get 2x Steady using a castsequence macro.