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    Varwin's Avatar Member
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    Legal Help!

    Legal Help!
    Alrighty guys, so I was on my main and I was scamming people. I only scammed one person but they never traded me anything in game at all we never chatted in game much at all about anything besides atcg trade. I sent him my phisher and got his account. The phisher and getting his account was all on aim. Then I went on his scammed account and scammed more accounts etc, but alot of people know it;s me. If they report me and say we know who the scammer is will blizzard acutually check the ip logs etc ? If so what should I do ? Delete my character or what ?

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    Hunterplay's Avatar Contributor
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    Blizzard won't do anything to your account. Less money for them.
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    Varwin's Avatar Member
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    Lol, can you please answer me seriously ? Have you ever been in this situation and how sure of this are you ?

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    Originally Posted by Hunterplay View Post
    Blizzard won't do anything to your account. Less money for them.
    Hate to break it to you, perhaps blizzard are getting more involved, but that is VERY wrong.

    Lemme fill you in on my last two days events.

    A few weeks ago I scammed a lvl 80 priest. This char was ****ing insane, it had realm firsts, protodrakes, nearly full 8.5 for both main/offspec. Very very very nice char, I had to have it. I did the traditional bnet merged + bnet merge my acc, xfer the char $30, unmerge (help plx bliz omfg my bro merged!), and ban the other account.

    A few days after doing this, i scammed an account of 9k gold (only), which i was going to sell to a chinese gold farmer.

    Yesterday, I received these two emails:

    Code:
    Account Name: XXXXXXX
    Date of Violation: 20/07/2009
    Character Name Involved: [NAME OF CHAR I TOOK GOLD ON]
    Type of violation:  Unauthorised Access of a third-party account
    Consequences for Account: Account suspended for 24 hours
    
    Greetings,
    We are writing to inform you that we have had to place a warning on your World of Warcraft account and temporarily suspend it. It is with regret that we take this type of action, but it is in the best interests of the World of Warcraft community as a whole, and for the integrity of the game. After your suspension has expired, you will be able to access the World of Warcraft servers again.
    
    Please note that should any further violations of our Rules and Policies occur, this incident will be taken into consideration when determining the consequences to your account. This could include further warnings, account suspension or account termination.
    I thought shit.. my priests on that account.. oh well it'll be cool. Whats the worst that can happen right.

    5 hours later I got this:

    Code:
     Greetings,
    
    This is to inform you that we have temporarily suspended your World of Warcraft account.
    
    Account Name: XXXXXX
    Date of Violation: 16.7.2009
    Type of Violation: Terms of Use violation
    Details of Incident: Account Scam
    Consequences for Account: Account suspended for 48 hours (2 days).
    
    While we regret to take this type of action, we have determined it to be in the best interests of the World of Warcraft community as a whole, and for the integrity of the game.
    
    Please note that should any further violations of our Rules and Policies occur, this incident will be taken into consideration when determining the consequences to your account. This could include further warnings, account suspension or account termination.
    
    Also note, it is necessary for you to log into the game after 48 hours (2 days) have passed; this will update the status of your account displayed on the Account Management page.
    Then I thought.. Omgwtf checked the armory and yes, the lvl 80 priest is GONE!

    I followed everything to down to a T on how-to-keep-shit w.e covered my back the WHOLE way. And I've lost 9k and a pretty ****ing sick char. (Not that I actually care, lets be honest, i scammed that shit in the first place)

    Now for those of you out there who are about to say "LOL YOU DIDNT DO IT RIGHT NEWBBBB!", that is if you havn't pressed reply to flame me already, all of this happened around the date of me merging my account to the scammed account. So, I thought i'd send a webform email to blizzard saying wtf is going on this DEFINATELY wasnt me you can check my acc got merged it must have been someone else. This was their response..

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    Greetings,
    
    Following a review of your case, we can confirm that the evidence presented was correct, and that the subsequent action taken was appropriate. Our decision in this matter stands, and will not be overturned.
    
    Please note, it is our policy never to reveal details regarding account investigations, beyond the information given in the original notice mail, for privacy and security reasons.
    
    We now consider this matter closed, and would not look to enter into further communication on the matter.
    
    If you wish to review our current Rules and Policies, they can be found at:
    http://www.wow-europe.com/en/legal/termsofuse.html
    Does that not spell it out?
    Last edited by Giblets123; 07-26-2009 at 04:52 AM.

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    Varwin's Avatar Member
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    Alls I did was login an steal the gold thats it.

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    I did that and got a 24 hour ban, as you see above. They've classed it as Unauthorised Access of a third-party account

    Im not trying to scare you or anything. But unlike 90% of ppl in this forum who sugar coat the WHOLE thing, which is VERY false as I've now come to learn, ill tell you what happens.

    I think it will alot come down to if the dude reports you for it or not. If he doesn't tell a GM, no worries, if he does they might investigate and could face some ban time.

    They wont sue you irl or anything, its just ur account's neck on the line .

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    Lol 3 of them are opening tickets. =P

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    Well gl ^^, keep us updated on the situation

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    Originally Posted by Hunterplay View Post
    Blizzard won't do anything to your account. Less money for them.
    highly unlikely that blizzard wont take action. ive found out that if there is ever an incident when on someones scammed account, repercussions are to come. in the OP's case, blizzard is more then likely to follow through with the investigation and punish his main or whatever.

    PROTIP - its more profitable for blizzard to ban an account, because then you have to go out and buy the game + all the expansions and continue paying their monthly fee.
    Last edited by Iraq; 07-27-2009 at 06:02 PM.

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    My experience is, if you merge two accounts on one battle.net then transfer a character to another account on the same Bnet(or even a diff one, but that takes 30 days) and then UNMERGE it, the character is returned to the original account.

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