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    Some DBC seems to be impossible to edit

    Hello,

    I have been trying to edit a DBC for days and it still doesnt work.

    So basically, I can edit mana cost of some spells but when I tried to change a value in SpellVisualKit.dbc in the same PATCH which works for Spell.DBC, it does nothing.
    I asked someone to try it for me and it worked for him. But he is using WOTLK why I am on TBC, dunno if it may be linked. Also he used Trinity and I use cMangos (but I dont see how it could have any impact).
    I clear the cache before going in game and I proceeded the same exact way for both DBC, I've put them into the patch AND the server.

    So wtf, how can one DBC edit works while the other don't ?

    Thank you if you have any kind of solution.

    PS : also when I modify the description of a spell buff or the description of the spell itself in Spell.dbc, by adding for example "Hello.This spell transforms you into..." it does nothing ingame while editing other properties works...

    Some DBC seems to be impossible to edit
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    I do not think SpellVisualKit.dbc is included in TBC. But then again I am not entirely sure that I didn't misread my source.

    Source: CategoryBC BC - WoWDev

    PS : also when I modify the description of a spell buff or the description of the spell itself in Spell.dbc, by adding for example "Hello.This spell transforms you into..." it does nothing ingame while editing other properties works...
    Did you create a new string, for the text and then link to it from column 23 in Spell.dbc?
    Last edited by minupii; 11-09-2013 at 12:16 PM.

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    It is.
    Couldn't invent it

    you think there are only 5 dbc in TBC ?

    no i didn't, i don't even understand what you mean, I just edited the text in the column (and i don't think it was column 23, more like column 120)


    Also I know now that my patch doesn't work but my server side edits work.

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    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    It is.
    Couldn't invent it

    you think there are only 5 dbc in TBC ?
    Yeah, that's what made me unsure... It's just weird how the site clearly states that it's included in 3.3.5 but not in TBC or Vanilla.

    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    no i didn't, i don't even understand what you mean, I just edited the text in the column (and i don't think it was column 23, more like column 120)
    Try changing the description in column 23 or atleast tell me what it already states.

    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    Also I know now that my patch doesn't work but my server side edits work.
    Well, could be you didn't compile the mpq quite right. Is it possible for you to upload the DBC files and give me the link?

    Regards, Minupi

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    Some DBC are listed in the "dbc" on the wiki they are common to each expansions

    i don't think it's related to column 23 or something and before I send you the dbc file I must say that when I use Ladik's MPQ editor (the lastest version), following the instructions on modcraft for example, it corrupts the file when I launch wow.exe. It says "xxx.dbc is corrupt" fatal error.
    It's not the DBC editor because the server side DBC edits work.
    So to try it I used the winMPQ program, no error showing but still doesn't work.

    It's not only about the description in spell.dbc but I think any changes made to the client dbc won't work cause of that problem.

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    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    i don't think it's related to column 23 or something
    Well this could be a part of your problem.
    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    and before I send you the dbc file I must say that when I use Ladik's MPQ editor (the lastest version), following the instructions on modcraft for example, it corrupts the file when I launch wow.exe. It says "xxx.dbc is corrupt" fatal error.
    It's not the DBC editor because the server side DBC edits work.
    So to try it I used the winMPQ program, no error showing but still doesn't work.
    This is definately your problem and it is also why I want you to send me the dbc files, so I can create the MPQ and test myself.

    Originally Posted by HardcoreBadger View Post
    It's not only about the description in spell.dbc but I think any changes made to the client dbc won't work cause of that problem.
    This is correct.

    Start listening please...

    Ps. you never send me the DBC files.

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    Spell.dbc

    I bet you will be able to make the patch that's why I didn't sent it earlier.
    I guess the problem is when I build the patch in an MPQ

    (Thank you for your help)
    Last edited by HardcoreBadger; 11-12-2013 at 12:22 PM.

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    Sorry for not clarifying but I also need the ID of the spell that bugs out. I can create the MPQ with spell.dbc but can't test it.

    Working Ladiks + MPQ

    Regards, Minupi

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    i cannot edit ANYTHING so it doesn't matter the ID of the spell since ANY spell is affected. I mean I can edit any spell in spell.dbc, it won't work...
    i tried on 1784 = stealth and in the lastest spell, one who transforms you into a corsair
    But anyway I can't launch the client.

    I tested the patch by putting it in my locale folder, renaming it to patch-enGB-3.MPQ
    and it says the same error about "wow.exe" and "spell.dbc"
    there is also a long error log


    Btw the version of ladiks you sent is older than the one I got but it shouldn't matter at all.

    So still stuck :P

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    Did you even try the one I send you? It made the MPQ fine. Patches need to be placed in wow/data folder. Rename it to something like "patch-x.MPQ".
    I am not sure you quite follow here. You told me you were editing the description texts, so how about you focus on making that work before you jump off to the next adventure.
    And what do you know if it matters? It might, it might not. I was merely sending you the one I used, which did not corrupt the .mpq

    Sorry if I come off harsh, but it seems like you haven't described your problem clearly at all.

    Ps. Make sure you did not delete any pre-existing patches..

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    Yes i tried the patch you sent me (which was named patch-Ha.MPQ), I already mentioned it and you try to make me look dumb one more time...
    No the patch isn't to be put in wow/data it's in wow/data/enGB for DBC
    How I know that ? because 1) i read many tutorials about it and they all say it's in the locale folder
    2) i looked into the MPQ and saw the DBC are in the patches located in this folder

    What do I know if it matters ? because i'm using my brain and don't want to either waste your time and my time. If it's not working for any spell then don't focus on one spell, it's totally stupid...

    And i didn't delete any patches before

    I described my problem as :

    - Can't edit client side dbc, I can edit some values like mana cost but can't edit the visual aspect of a spell for example
    - I then realised I can't use custom MPQ made with Ladik's MPQ editor and I can use those made with WinMPQ but they don't work.

    So if the patch you sent me didn't work, can't it bee because of my wow.exe ??

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    I do not try to make you look stupid.

    On a last note:
    If your wow.exe errors out then yes.
    Putting the patch in my wow/data folder works, I have done countless dbc edits...(3.3.5 that is).
    I never questioned your brain. Sometimes what seems the dumbest works the most.
    If reading tutorials makes you an expert then fine, why are you here?(Not in any way stating that I am half an expert...)

    Regards, Minupi.

    Edit: I have never done any modifications for the 2.4.3 client, just sharing what I thought would work.

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