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    [QUESTIONS]Emulator Server Questions..

    In order to gain a wider more vivid knowledge of Emulated Servers.. I have a few questions. These may be considered noob questions that I should already know, but I don't.. so oh well.. Here we go-

    1) What is the difference between a repack, a database, and a compile?
    2) Can someone link me too whatever I need to start a server.. (Ascent DB, Repack, whatever it is that I actually need)

    I will rep those who answer my questions, and this thread will be updated when more questions arise.

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    Last edited by Frogzilla; 12-20-2007 at 10:48 PM.

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    ^^..........................



    Okay well a database is what has all the data of a server.

    A Compile ?? compile is getting a source code of an emulator and compile it .. meaning actually making the emulator or creating it , to create an .exe

    Repack ??? repack is lots of stuff put in 1 folder or folders, like the core , the database and maybe some websites and such things

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    1) What is the difference between a repack, a database, and a compile?
    Repack is when someone does all the work, we download it and play, database is what your server uses to get data, like where NPC are and quests
    compile word meaning putting ascent into a program and making a bunch of files into one program... sorta

    2) Can someone link me too whatever I need to start a server.. (Ascent DB, Repack, whatever it is that I actually need)
    Millions of repacks, check out mine ill post a link, comes with a database
    http://www.mmowned.com/forums/emulat...christmas.html
    ^ My Repack ^

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    Originally Posted by Frogzilla View Post
    1) What is the difference between a repack, a database, and a compile?
    A repack is basically a premade server. It includes an ascent(or mangos) pre-compiled core and a database. Sometimes they come with updates to make the server better. A database is the SQL server you put on Navicat. This records all the data within your server, e.g. items / characters / accounts. A compile is an ascent core that has been compiled with visual studios. This can be easily described as the files you download including ascent.exe and the configs.


    Originally Posted by Frogzilla View Post
    2) Can someone link me too whatever I need to start a server.. (Ascent DB, Repack, whatever it is that I actually need)
    You can find almost everything you need in this thread on ragezone: [Ascent] Server Files (Last Update: 12/16/07) - MMORPG Development Forums - RaGEZONE (sponsored by TFN.gr)

    Filebeam - Free Fast File Hosting <- Pre-combiled rev 2554
    Filebeam - Free Fast File Hosting <- NCDB most recent rev (blizzlike)
    RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting <- Character Database (in navicat)
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    Originally Posted by Gastricpenguin View Post
    A repack is basically a premade server. It includes an ascent(or mangos) pre-compiled core and a database. Sometimes they come with updates to make the server better. A database is the SQL server you put on Navicat. This records all the data within your server, e.g. items / characters / accounts. A compile is an ascent core that has been compiled with visual studios. This can be easily described as the files you download including ascent.exe and the configs.




    You can find almost everything you need in this thread on ragezone: [Ascent] Server Files (Last Update: 12/16/07) - MMORPG Development Forums - RaGEZONE (sponsored by TFN.gr)

    Filebeam - Free Fast File Hosting <- Pre-combiled rev 2554
    Filebeam - Free Fast File Hosting <- NCDB most recent rev (blizzlike)
    RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting <- Character Database (in navicat)
    3) What is a Character Database?
    4) What is the most recent Ascent Rev (whatever a rev is..)

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    3) Character Database = is the Part of the Database with "Accounts, Characters, Guilds, Player Items Etc"

    4) Rev = A Rev is aka "Revision", It is Changing the Configs and Compiling Different Server Scripts
    And the Newest is 2600 - 2700

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    Originally Posted by Frogzilla
    3) What is a Character Database?
    A character database is a database in your SQL server that holds character information such as player items, guilds, charters, characters, etc. The most recent servers are set up in the 3 database method. The databases are: World, Char, and login. The world database holds everything the server needs to start up and run effectively. This includes custom items, gameobjects, creatures, spawns, quests, etc. The character db, from above, stores character information. The login database is what players initially connect to. This database stores login information (login and password) and ipbans.

    Originally Posted by Frogzilla
    4) What is the most recent Ascent Rev (whatever a rev is..)
    The most recent revision from ascent, as of 8:18PM Thursday December 20th, is 2645.
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    Originally Posted by Gastric View Post
    A character database is a database in your SQL server that holds character information such as player items, guilds, charters, characters, etc. The most recent servers are set up in the 3 database method. The databases are: World, Char, and login. The world database holds everything the server needs to start up and run effectively. This includes custom items, gameobjects, creatures, spawns, quests, etc. The character db, from above, stores character information. The login database is what players initially connect to. This database stores login information (login and password) and ipbans.



    The most recent revision from ascent, as of 8:18PM Thursday December 20th, is 2645.
    5) Should I be using the latest rev?
    6) Do I have to download a character database, or does a rev come with one?

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    Originally Posted by Frogzilla View Post
    5) Should I be using the latest rev?
    This is a debatable topic. New revisions just mark that an ascent developer has modified the source or fixed a bug in the core. These revisions are placed in the Trunk folder of the ascent SVN. Normally, new revisions are a good thing, especially when there are major problems going about. But when there are times that the cores are always stable, it is a good idea to pick a core and stick with it. As most of the times, the developer's will put a faulty core in the trunk, and people will compile it and crash their server on accident. I always like to review each core before compiling it.

    Originally Posted by Frogzilla View Post
    6) Do I have to download a character database, or does a rev come with one?
    You do not necessarily NEED a character database, alot of old repacks condense all the files into one big world database. This is hazardous due to the massive file that the core has to call upon when starting up. Its also a big pain to execute a huge sql file.
    As for the second part of the question, it usually depends on the compiler. Most of the threads you see entitled "<name>'s ascent compiles" or "Ascent Compiles (updated Daily)" are threads in which the creator downloads the cores from the Trunk bin, compiles them, and then uploads them to the thread. Most compiles come with a script_bin, the core, DBC files, SQL updates, and any other thing the compiler wants in it. Character Databases, on the other hand, can be found anywhere.
    If you really want to use the three database method, here is the Character Database as of 2.3 http://filebeam.com/a990681a71957c1a1b34646426859822

    Example of the three DB method:

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    Originally Posted by Gastric View Post
    This is a debatable topic. New revisions just mark that an ascent developer has modified the source or fixed a bug in the core. These revisions are placed in the Trunk folder of the ascent SVN. Normally, new revisions are a good thing, especially when there are major problems going about. But when there are times that the cores are always stable, it is a good idea to pick a core and stick with it. As most of the times, the developer's will put a faulty core in the trunk, and people will compile it and crash their server on accident. I always like to review each core before compiling it.



    You do not necessarily NEED a character database, alot of old repacks condense all the files into one big world database. This is hazardous due to the massive file that the core has to call upon when starting up. Its also a big pain to execute a huge sql file.
    As for the second part of the question, it usually depends on the compiler. Most of the threads you see entitled "<name>'s ascent compiles" or "Ascent Compiles (updated Daily)" are threads in which the creator downloads the cores from the Trunk bin, compiles them, and then uploads them to the thread. Most compiles come with a script_bin, the core, DBC files, SQL updates, and any other thing the compiler wants in it. Character Databases, on the other hand, can be found anywhere.
    If you really want to use the three database method, here is the Character Database as of 2.3 http://filebeam.com/a990681a71957c1a1b34646426859822

    Example of the three DB method:

    7) I'm looking to make a 29 Twink Server, which rev should I be using?

    (More questions will be followed by this one)
    Last edited by Frogzilla; 12-20-2007 at 10:06 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Frogzilla
    7) I'm looking to make a 29 Twink Server, which rev should I be using?
    I would suggest core 2554 or 2557, as they have been very stable. The ones above 2600 are being very faulty lately.
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    Originally Posted by Gastric View Post
    I would suggest core 2554 or 2557, as they have been very stable. The ones above 2600 are being very faulty lately.
    Is the three database method more efficient and less hazardous than the world DB? Will it affect server stability?

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    Originally Posted by Frogzilla View Post
    Is the three database method more efficient and less hazardous than the world DB? Will it affect server stability?
    In my opinion, the three database method is the best. It is very organized and makes managing the server more eddicient. Less problems will arise and if they do, you will be able to easily fix them. It shouldn't affect stability negatively
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    9) Should I be using a specific repack for a 29 Twink Funserver?


    By the way, thank you for putting up with all my questions.. I'm really thankful, and I will rep you again when I can.

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