[Discuss] server idea

[riyt]

[Background Info]

Well, my name is Riyt. I have been in the coding scene, since I was 8 years old. Which gives me about 10 years of overall experience. I have recreated, opened a private server, and or modded/patched every single game I have played before. These contain but are not limited too: Diablo, Diablo 2, Starcraft, Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft, Team Fortress 2, COD MW2, COD BO, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Minecraft, and Runescape. I also was in a project for a Java web-based application, but it was canceled. With that being said, I have in total about 5 hours of C++ plus coding. But, I know Java to a Tee. My main goal for the next couple of months is to learn the basics of C++, besides making a enjoyable server.

My real name is Ed, I live in California, and I am 18 years old. My education throughout high school has always been the best, and I have pushed the boundaries in school, literally. All honors and Advanced Placement Classes/College Credit classes. I have taken summer school at Junior Colleges to enrich my education even more. I was the first person in my high school to be two years ahead in math, I was a sophmore in a senor math class. I know this doesn't matter, but I would like to state this, because it shows that I am commited and only accept the best work, and thats what I want to show.

[Foreground Info]

I plan on making a unique server. A server where people will come to escape all of the same "custom funservers." In these "custom funservers" where rates where changes, a level road, some premade battlegrounds, and sql events fill the server. I myself, who cannot speak for everyone, am tired of these servers. My goal is to make a completely unique server, which I have already stated, that uses the minimum of vanilla wow. I intend to make a server where new places, balanced items, lore-friendly stories, and ,among other things, PVP/PVE, resemble sense and contribute to a player-friendly environment, where fun is the product.

[Actual Lore]

After Bolvar Fordragon accepted to be the jailer of damned, he was slowly being healed from his wounds with the power surging through him. Eventually he went mad, storing and creating an army so huge that it would easily be able to take over Azeroth. Meanwhile, Alliance and Horde, continued to fight over useless matters. Everything was normal, Everyone has thought that the Lich Kind was dead, and he was the least of their fears. Years went by, when finally the mortals of Azeroth decided it best to live in harmony, they accepted a peace treaty, and all of Azeroth was in peace for a while. During this time of peace, combatants lost expertise, due to the unuse of it. Many years have passed, and generations came and went. Finally the peace was broken when the scourge attacked. The Union of Azeroth fought back with equal strength, but the scourge had an unending army. Many good warriors where lost. And to add to the new troubles, the Burning Legion was summoned to Azeroth by High Warlocks. The Union of Azeroth was down sized due to major death count. A great battle for Stormwind happened between all three sides. The Union of Azeroth was lost and had to escape to {Insert Undecided Place Here}, Where they remain in hiding. The Scourge and The Buring Legion are spread throughout the world, and are fighting for complete dominance.

[Features]

• Max Level 40 (due to the time of peace)
• Horde and Alliance are now friends (Union of Azeroth)
• Redefined PvP, it is now a Sport, Fair Even Teams
• Any Race/Class combo (due to the time of peace and sharing of culture)
• Completely different starting location, all the same
• 2 talents per level
• Huge long quest line, with many sub-quest lines
• new flight paths, new locations
• Custom Instances where you can battle the scourge and or the burning legion
• Completely balanced gear
• Mounts at 10, 20, 30, 40.
• Unique End-Game
• Lore-Friendly Everything
• Fun

I understand that this is a wall of text, I appreciate any comment you have to say, and will be taken in the best of ways.
Thank you,
Riyt.

[stoneharry]

It's all very well coming up with a good idea, but actually putting that into reality is not easy. If you don't have the skills, then your going to struggle to create this, as others will not do all the work for you.

[riyt]

It's all very well coming up with a good idea, but actually putting that into reality is not easy. If you don't have the skills, then your going to struggle to create this, as others will not do all the work for you.

I know this, but the main goal of this project, is for me to learn C++, I have heard than Java and C++ are similar, I will need help too. I mean for new locations, I might need someone that knows how to make maps. I will be taking classes on C++, therefore, I will probably do the easy ones first, so then when I am more experienced I can do the harder ones. These are least of my problems though, I have plenty of time to work on this, it is just that I don't have money. Without money, the server, mostly likely, won't succeed, but I will deal with that when the time comes. I just know that it won't be all "la da da" the server is done, I understand it will take time and concentration.

I also, need a location for starting zone that is appropriate, any ideas?

[lordcanyon]

yes it is very nice to see unique projects like this, but i don't see many come halfway.

i was tired of the same old leveling road grind, donor/vote gear, and so called custom instances/areas.
so i recently started to contact old afgwarriorz members to create a whole new repack.


no i would say java is absolutly nothing like c++ or c# no matter what anyone below me says
java is closest to javascript and html, thats how i learned it.

[runiker]

Java and C++ are different I got books on both I am a fellow programmer. I am willing to help with ideas and research coding if you need it. Pm me on here if you want to take me up on my offer I used to be one of Knaurs lead dev's coming up with pure custom stuff and I myself have made a fully custom zone with all my own mobs. I was even in the process of a complete new remake (toons started by there class not race) in different instances and left the instance when they were done with their private chain. I have only reached level 10 on this but it is similar and I can help with the background SQL that might be just long and drawn out db work for a c++ scripter. Offer stands no matter what you need from me.

[riyt]

Java and C++ are different

Wow really, ok then, more fun for me. . And thank you runiker, I will pm you if I need something.

[myran2]

I know this, but the main goal of this project, is for me to learn C++, I have heard than Java and C++ are similar, I will need help too. I mean for new locations, I might need someone that knows how to make maps. I will be taking classes on C++, therefore, I will probably do the easy ones first, so then when I am more experienced I can do the harder ones. These are least of my problems though, I have plenty of time to work on this, it is just that I don't have money. Without money, the server, mostly likely, won't succeed, but I will deal with that when the time comes. I just know that it won't be all "la da da" the server is done, I understand it will take time and concentration.

I also, need a location for starting zone that is appropriate, any ideas?

Java and C# are similar. If you're looking for (quite) a bit more work, you could always look into using Wcell as your emulator's base. It's not too far along, but it's probably far enough along to get something like your server going.

[Namor]

Java isn't similar to C++? What?
Then how could I, with only C++ knowledge, jump into a Java 2D game project and begin working without any prior practice with Java?

Java is very similar to C++, syntax-wise.
I would say the only thing different is the way classes are setup. The rules aren't as strict in C++.
For example:

class Derp
{
private: //It's private by default, so this isn't needed, BUT I'm just using it as an example.
   int derpDeDerp;
   float derp;
   char derpAgain[8];
public:
   Derp();
   void derpVoid();
   int derpInt(int val);
};

Whereas in Java, you would have to declare "private" or "public" or "protected" before declaring the variable.

I'm sure there are more differences, but there's definitely not very many syntax differences at all.

And how are C# and Java similar, but C++ and java aren't? C# is a C based language, and has the same syntax as C++ and C. There are some differences, yes, but still, there's hardly any syntax differences between C#, Java, and C++.

[EveronMightbane]

This sounds like a really awesome idea, I'd love to see this become a real server sometime in the future.

[riyt]

Thank you, So I was right, C++, C# and, Java are all alike. Also I had another idea about the resistance system. What would you think about a resistance system like the damage done is multiplied by Min(Max(100%-(Resistance-SpellPen)%, 10), 190), and the max a person could have would be 75 resistance, and 75 spell pen.

Also is there a way I can edit talent trees. Completely rework them. I dont mind dbc editing

[Namor]

Also is there a way I can edit talent trees. Completely rework them. I dont mind dbc editing

There are definitely ways. I'm not sure how, but it has been done.
Your best bet would be to look into the DBCs, but there's also some interface-based material in there, so I'm not sure where to look for that.

[riyt]

can someone explain git extensions to me. Say i edit player.cpp in spot A, and the update edits player.cpp in spot B, how would i update through git extensions?

[MadameGrip]

It is Model Editing basicly.. So if you want a guide for it, just visit the model editing section, thank you very much.

[riyt]

wait what? Im already doing that i needed to know how to update the code without changing my changes, i found out, you gotta stash them then update then apply stash changes.

[Paccoz]

Sooo...What happend with the project? It seems to have died..? :C