Converting ArcEmu Lua Engine And Implanting it to MaNGOS Core

[Xees]

Converting ArcEmu Lua Engine And Implanting it to MaNGOS Core

i already C++ but i need Developers Who Know how to script and with c++ it seems impossible .

if someone would start doing this project he or she will get a lot of donations , and extreme support due to People who love Arcemu leaving it because MaNGOS will Support Lua.


i am Ready To Supply a Full Website , Host , Starting Money for such a project.


because with lua a lot more devs would go to mangos


Scriptdev2 Pro's :

• 1- More commands and styles of code to go over in C++.
• 2- Extremely Fast to load and Execute.
• 3- Syntax oriented environment.
• 4- Very Powerful And Unlimited Functions.
• 5- C++ is more accepted and can be used in more situations.

Scriptdev2 Con's :

• 6-Harder language to learn. - You will struggle with the language
• 7-Harder to code for. - The Code for LUA is soo much simpler.
• 8-C++ can seem hopelessly complex , and after a few hours , maybe days people tend to stop trying to learn it.

Lua Pro's:

• 1-Lua is 10x Times Faster to Code in.
• 2-Lua debugging is a lot easier then C++
• 3-Lua isn't as slow as people make out. its faster than python and ruby which it is often paired against.
• 4-Lua has basic programming concepts, Learning Lua Takes about 100% less time then Learning C++
• 5-Large Number of Coders Able And Welling To Work With This Language.
• 6-100% Bigger Support then C++ , Due to Lua having Large Number of Experts Compared to C++

[The-Eradicator]

Scriptdev2 Pro's :

• 1- More commands and styles of code to go over in C++.
• 2- Extremely Fast to load and Execute.
• 3- Syntax oriented environment.
• 4- Very Powerful And Unlimited Functions.
• 5- C++ is more accepted and can be used in more situations.

Scriptdev2 Con's :

• 6-Harder language to learn. - You will struggle with the language
• 7-Harder to code for. - The Code for LUA is soo much simpler.
• 8-C++ can seem hopelessly complex , and after a few hours , maybe days people tend to stop trying to learn it.

Lua Pro's:

• 1-Lua is 10x Times Faster to Code in.
• 2-Lua debugging is a lot easier then C++
• 3-Lua isn't as slow as people make out. its faster than python and ruby which it is often paired against.
• 4-Lua has basic programming concepts, Learning Lua Takes about 100% less time then Learning C++
• 5-Large Number of Coders Able And Welling To Work With This Language.
• 6-100% Bigger Support then C++ , Due to Lua having Large Number of Experts Compared to C++

Frankly, if someone isn't willing to put in the effort to learn C++ (which, let's face it, Lua and C++ are both programming languages. If you understand either, it shouldn't be hard to switch to the other. The logic is the same.) they shouldn't be working in emulation. C++ is a huge, complicated language, but in reality you only need a very small fraction of it to edit an emulator.

Lua is definately good in the correct situations. If you're scripting a boss-fight, Lua is certainly ideal. If you're creating a GM server and you need custom commands, C++ is ideal.

It's situational.

Aside from that, I take issue with your last point.

[*]6-100% Bigger Support then C++ , Due to Lua having Large Number of Experts Compared to C++

Experts? Most Lua scripts i've seen are copied teleporter NPCs, and even then they're terribly written. If you find someone who actually knows C++, you certainly have a better chance of them knowing what they're doing.


tl;dr; Lua should only be used on a situational basis. It is not an end-all. It isn't really simple either, it just looks that way because it has a word-based syntax versus brackets. If you're using a proper IDE like Visual Studio, C++ is rather easy to read once you've worked in it for several days. If you use it properly, Lua can be a great advantage.

[Hellgawd]

C++ is a huge, complicated language, but in reality you only need a very small fraction of it to edit an emulator.

Finally, some wisdom

[hunuza]

I think all the people demanding LUA support in MaNGOS did not even try to do some scripts in C++.
If you understand the basic concepts of pointers, it should be really easy to do some NPC scripts with ScriptDev2. There are really a lot of examples that you might use as some kind of template.
You should be able to guess by the name, what most functions do, although I admit that MaNGOS might need more documentation at some points (but it's pretty hard to keep any documentation up-to-date because of the fast development).
About debugging: I think debugging C++ code is a lot easier, because of the good debuggers out there and the syntax checking will help you write nice code.
Concerning the speed of development: there should not be much difference. A nice development tool will help you with code completion and etc. I don't if their are tools for LUA which also support this...

[Breakdawn]

C++ isnt easy at all... If C++ was easy. why would people rather use LUA?.... But indeed if we could use both codes for both core-types.. I would get an huge cyber orgasm.. and probably start working as dev again... :P since i can only script 50% of the job with c++ cus i suck at it..

anyways... c++ is fake and gay!
LUA is as cool as techno doggeh!

[Pedregon]

C++ isnt easy at all... If C++ was easy. why would people rather use LUA?

People would rather use LUA because it's 'easier' to understand and is more 'noob' friendly.

C++ is quiet easy if you understand syntax, how to identify certain functions, follow or use a simple script template and you should easily be able to C++ script a boss or instance blizzlike.

[muffins100]

People would rather use LUA because it's 'easier' to understand and is more 'noob' friendly.

C++ is quiet easy if you understand syntax, how to identify certain functions, follow or use a simple script template and you should easily be able to C++ script a boss or instance blizzlike.

"If you understand" that would be the problem with most people - C++ has a huge learning curve compared LUA besides the fact any OOP language has a huge learning curve.

[Pedregon]

if you understand the basics; like said above, you only need to know a small amount of C++ to edit/fix an emulator, let alone script it.

[muffins100]

if you understand the basics; like said above, you only need to know a small amount of C++ to edit/fix an emulator, let alone script it.

Oh I am agreeing completely - I'm just empathizing that C++ can become quite daunting.

To the OP - Goodluck if it launches anyhow.

[b1ink]

Goodluck with this. Would love to see it actually happen, for Trinity especially.

[MEC]

has this gone anywhere or is the project dead?

[mager1794]

anyways... c++ is fake and gay!
LUA is as cool as techno doggeh!

Thats a joke.......right?


On topic, this is a rather good idea. Just need enough people willing to work on it. Though I would advise making sure you include all the functions are is capable of, that way you will already have a bunch of Lua scripts to choose from. I'm not gonna say Lua is better than C++ cause its not even close to true seeing as how Lua was wrote in C, which is essentially the less powerful C++. But Lua is a great language to start with and if you follow the programming path it will lead to C++. If i knew anything about mangos i would definitely help :P

[Rxanti]

I just hate having to recompile my mangos core everytime I add a script haha XD

[Rxanti]

Finally, some wisdom

I know right?