Why all the VB hate?

[csin]

Why do people flame about VB on here and then in the same paragraph say the person should use C#?

VB.NET and C# compile the EXACT same code. In fact, that was Microsofts point in creating .NET. I don't mean it is similar or it executes just slightly different, i mean the compiler will compile them the exact same.

Don't flame the crap out of me for asking this, I am just curious as to why the hatred of VB...6):

[XC4T4LY5TX]

Cause VB sucks :P

[Chinchy]

It's ugly to read.

[The-Eradicator]

Because people are uniformed morons who follow trends without knowing anything about it.

I prefer C#, and I dislike VB.NET (Due to syntax). Does that mean VB.NET is bad? No.

It's the same, and it's the preference of the developer. Just ignore people who hate it irrationally.

[flo8464]

Well, VB looks like a ugly, fat Lady driving an old truck while C# is a hot blonde with huge boobs driving a Lamborghini Gallardo.

Furthermore, VB was designed for noobs. That was the intention to create the language. VB.NET is a mix of the noob language and a more complex language to be compatible to the NET-Framework. Ask the old VB devs what their thoughts about class-inheritance were. Lol.

Did I mention all those ugly keywords?
The only thing that is worse than VB is AutoShit.

[Apoc]

Because people are uniformed morons who follow trends without knowing anything about it.

I prefer C#, and I dislike VB.NET (Due to syntax). Does that mean VB.NET is bad? No.

It's the same, and it's the preference of the developer. Just ignore people who hate it irrationally.

Unlike most people, I don't hate it 'irrationally'. I hate it because the language itself teaches horrific practices, and lacks the many features that are required for this area of programming.

1) Pointers. You can't use them. Period. (Not IntPtrs. I'm talking about actual pointers [byte*, int*, etc])
2) Case sensitivity. VB(.NET) is case-insensitive. So if a C# coder (like myself) uses the same name in a field, as well as the param to a function, you're pretty much screwed.
3) We're writing code. Not books. VB is designed for people who have never touched a programming language before, and is only meant to aid in teaching control flow. Nothing else. I don't understand why people still use the language after the first week or so of dealing with it. Not to mention; the required characters to do the same line in 2 different languages is nearly doubled when VB enters the picture.
4) It's VB. There's no reason to like it. Ever.
5) See above.
6) Too many people think that using the VB6 backwards compatibility libs are a 'good' thing. Without even bothering to do the research to find out that MS TELLS YOU NOT TO USE THEM UNLESS YOU'RE PORTING YOUR APPLICATION FROM VB6. (AkA: VB programmers can't ****ing read for shit.)

In other words; VB teaches you to do things wrong, right off the bat. Which is just plain stupid.

Edit: The fact that you claim they compile to the same code proves my points above. While they both compile to IL, they are most definitely different.

[suicidity]

What Apoc said, and C#/VB neutrality (them being the same) wasn't really true until VS2010. But everything that Apoc said is still true with Visual Basic 2010.

It's a terrible 'language', and it disgusts me I used to proof of concept in VB just to prove it could be done (In the end it turned into unreadable, disgusting and unmanageable code).

[Robske]

As Apoc noted, there's a reason for the 'B' in VB.

Although I wouldn't even recommend it to anyone as their starter language.

[Xarg0]

Forget about all the reasons mentioned above, because actually this video is the best reason to hate VB [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU]YouTube - GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI[/ame]

[Robske]

Forget about all the reasons mentioned above, because actually this video is the best reason to hate VB YouTube - GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI

Hahahahaha! Have some rep

[MaiN]

Forget about all the reasons mentioned above, because actually this video is the best reason to hate VB YouTube - GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI

wtf .

[suicidity]

so much win in this thread now. excellent.

[vulcanaoc]

I'll create a graphical user interface interface in Visual Basic *tiny sigh* ...see if I can track an I*turns around*P address.

Due to its obvious and subtle touches of retardation, this clip goes down in the 'innernet history bookz as one of the best.

[flo8464]

If you think that is so funny, you surely don't know some German TV series.
You won't understand everything, but well, it still should be funny as hell

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[darrensmith0125]

Why do most developers use C# rather than VB.Net?

* C#'s syntax is closer to C++ and Java.
* C# is less verbose (e.g. 'Dim cnt As Integer' or 'int cnt;').
* The B in BASIC stands for beginner.
* Basic is older than C++,C#, Java.