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  1. #106
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    I guess I'm one of the ones that doesn't care about epeen, and just cares about overall what profiles work the best. You wanna lie on your numbers, go for it, but I figure you'll lie across the board, and I can see overall what profile has worked best for you. Such as the example above, I can pretty easily see that there are a couple DK profiles that are about the same, just have to try them, and another that doesn't work at all. Good deal, when I roll up my DK I'll know which ones to try out.

    My only suggestion is to start adding links to the profiles thread, so this can be a resource of Hey, I just rolled up a new Hunter, oh this profile seems to work well for most people, *click* Download via SVN... as it is now, I have to go back to the forum, and try and find the right thread that has the profile in it.

    Again, using the DK profiles as an example, I don't even know what some of them are. The best one listed, I've not seen at all on these forums, so I assume it's buried?

    Would make things easier I think.

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    Originally Posted by healzzz View Post
    67% haste?

    your stats are strange.
    The haste level is correct. Battle.net shows haste % without Unholy presence on.

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    I'll update my post with more profile comparisons once I can find a work around for the LUA errors that some of the DK profiles are throwing with the PQInterface

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    I really need good warrior profile, but i dont know what to purchase - soapbox elite or replikator ultimate. Anyone testing them?

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    added recent tests to OP

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    - ilvl480 DW Frost Death Knight -

    Key stats:
    Strength: 11.300
    Attack Power: 22.800
    Haste: 52.11%
    Critt: 11.48%
    Mastery: 26.67%
    Hit: capped
    Expertise: capped

    Im including my weapons too:
    Main weapon PVP i470 Malevolent Gladiators Hacker - Razorice
    Off weapon: i463 Amber Espada - Fallen Crusader

    Talents and Glyphs:
    Mists of Pandaria - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    Swap between Blood Tap and Runic Empowerment for RE tests.

    Buffs:
    Horn of the Winter

    Set Bonuses:
    LFR T14 4P bonus.

    Empower Rune Weapon - false
    Army of the Dead - false
    Rise Dead - false
    Rise Dead [CD's tests]- true
    Pillar of Frast- true


    Target: Raid Dummy
    Time: 3x 10mins tests
    DPS Meter: Skada (up-to-date)

    Wey's profile - Blood Tap with CDs:
    Average - 57.367
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - off CD
    Rise Dead - off CD

    Wey's profile - Runic Empowerment with CDs:
    Average - 55.844
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - off CD
    Rise Dead - off CD

    Rubim profile - with CDs:
    Average - 54.225
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - off CD
    Rise Dead - off CD

    Wey's profile - Blood Tap with CDs off:
    Average - 51.157
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - manual

    Wey's profile - Runic Empowerment with CDs off:
    Average - 49.874
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - manual

    Rubim profile - with CDs off:
    Average - 48.544
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - off CD

    Sandman profile:
    Average - 46.844
    Horn of the Winter - off CD
    Pillar of Frost - off CD
    Rise Dead - off CD

    Wey's profile felt far easier to control, with exceptional keybinds they provide max control of Profiles. Having abillity to toggle Howling Blast, DnD and CDs is something that i really like, specially when pulling one mob in pack. Support for Blood Tap made this profile even better, since Rubim's atm does not support it at all. survivability on profile is good, but not as good as on Rubim's profiles. Rotation is good and clean, toggling DnD off will make profile dump unholy runes trough Obliterate. Profile it self support Death Siphon and Death pact, even so i havent seen using Death Siphon at all. Next to that, you need to have specific talent build to pull out the best of profile, which is, by me, downside of it. On positive side, profile supports wide range of boss mechanics, which makes it perform better and worry less during encounters.

    Rubim profile has PQi config meny, allowing you to easy set up and config features that you want and how you want it. Keybinds are none, only one which you have is to toggle AoE mode on and off, giving you less control over profile outside of PQRi settings. Rotation is not quite precise as in Wey's profiles, but its pulling its own weight. I found strange bug in profile, profile it self will sometimes completely ignore using DnD to dump unholy runes, dumping them mainly trough Obliterate. Overall survivability is good and higher than in Wey's profiles.

    Sandman profile is stripped down and edited Rubims profile, its quite similar to Rubims, except lacking any config and keybind options so i wont go to much into it. Its pretty much down to Rubim or Sandman's profile, bot perform equally good in same situations.

    Since Blood Tap is currently DW Frost favored talent and only Wey's profile support it, i did test with it too. Currently all three profiles do incorrect rotation when using Runic Empowerment talent. They dont pool one Unholy rune to avoid RE from regenerating Unholy runes, which ends up in not little procs of RE on unholy runes. There for, Weys profile take a lead here again. All that being said its down to this:
    Wey's profile is optimized more for riding, sacrificing part of survivablity in favor of DPS done. Rubim profiles have far better survivability, but at little cost of DPS..


    As such, both profiles perform good, and with little fixing/updating, they would perform outstanding. Its down to what you preffer, DPS or survivability, i personally use Wey's profile for riding when i have healing covered by party/raid member, while using Rubim's for everyday usage. Its up to you to decide what you preffer, i would suggest to use them as i use them.

    Again, i had no chance of testing out some paid profiles im interested in how they perform over free ones, but untill authors dont add other payment methods beside paypal, im unable to do so.

  7. #112
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    Decaed, I think, unfortunately, you have missed the point. A single test of a single profile with your specific setup means nothing to anyone else. You need at least two profile tests with the same gear and stats to give any usable data.


    “If you don’t know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly.” - Walter White

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    Originally Posted by Aegeus View Post
    Decaed, I think, unfortunately, you have missed the point. A single test of a single profile with your specific setup means nothing to anyone else. You need at least two profile tests with the same gear and stats to give any usable data.
    Oh... Seems I omitted the second profiles results. I'm going to go ahead and delete that post until I can be bothered updating it again.

  9. #114
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    I have added Enuma's awesome Death Knight test

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    Test - Ret Paladin
    Item Level: 531
    Buffs: Might

    Key Stats
    4pc T15 Ret
    Mastery: 37.59
    Haste: 40.98%
    AP: 34,970
    Hit: 9.79%
    Expertise: 7.51%
    Crit: 9.87%

    Profiles were tested on Raider's Target Dummy 2 times, until 20m damage had been dealt.

    Soapbox Paid Ret Paladin (Auto-CD's)
    Average DPS: 137000.8

    Averykey - Ret Paladin Simcraft (Had to use CD's at own discretion)
    Average DPS: 135686.4

    Notes:
    I am an engineer, and both profiles used my glove enchant along with Execution Sentence.

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    healzzz's Avatar Knight
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    Originally Posted by hutermary View Post
    Thats an insane statement!

    what is exactly?

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    Originally Posted by monblanc77 View Post
    I really need good warrior profile, but i dont know what to purchase - soapbox elite or replikator ultimate. Anyone testing them?
    Don't buy a profile. There's free ones which put out just as much DPS.

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    Originally Posted by BadFuryWarrior View Post
    Don't buy a profile. There's free ones which put out just as much DPS.
    Idk about that. Just judging off the tests here alone, the paid profiles always put out higher dps than their free counterparts. It all comes down to is the extra 2k or so dps worth it for you to pay for a profile. Some people will gladly pay for a better profile, some won't. I have never paid for one, but not saying I wouldn't. If Phear or pong put out a feral profile that was superior to their current free ones, I would be their first customer lol.

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    And I will never charge for my profiles.
    BadRotations
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    in my person opinion, there are very few profiles that are "worth" the money. Some folks put in a tremendous amount of work to make it worthwhile for the customer to actually splash the cash and others do a lot of work once but then kinda rest on their laurels. Thats at least my impression.

    I keep bringing up Nilrem's affliction profile as a good example - i think that the money he charges for it is well worth it and especially if you see it also as a supporting mechanism.

    However there are so many great free profiles out there such as ph34r's or mentally's, just to name a few, that sometimes, yes its hard to argue to spend the cash.

    One thing I for example would expect from paid profiles is that they get updated a lot faster and more regularly than the free ones - apart from obviously putting out more DPS.

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