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    Drinksbeer's Avatar Knight-Lieutenant
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    These are some really dumb questions, so please forgive me for asking them. One of the things to help "get to the bottom" of situations is to take the obvious out of the equation. With that said.

    Feral is highly a rotation/proc based dps class, as most classes are, and when you throw DoC into the mix it becomes even moreso. So, let me ask, are you:

    hit capped
    expt capped
    behind the target
    what stat weights are you using
    do you have tier combo pieces

    Even at 476 that seems a little low to me, I went kitty form (with bear enchants and gem aka crit heavy) and did over 200k using cute's profile, so I am wondering if there is something obvious that we are missing in the equation.

    Also, do you have PQI and PQR in the correct folder, are you using the single target rotation, do you have cute one single and cute one multi in the pqr pull down slots...etc.

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    Originally Posted by Drinksbeer View Post
    These are some really dumb questions, so please forgive me for asking them. One of the things to help "get to the bottom" of situations is to take the obvious out of the equation. With that said.

    Feral is highly a rotation/proc based dps class, as most classes are, and when you throw DoC into the mix it becomes even moreso. So, let me ask, are you:

    hit capped
    expt capped
    behind the target
    what stat weights are you using
    do you have tier combo pieces

    Even at 476 that seems a little low to me, I went kitty form (with bear enchants and gem aka crit heavy) and did over 200k using cute's profile, so I am wondering if there is something obvious that we are missing in the equation.

    Also, do you have PQI and PQR in the correct folder, are you using the single target rotation, do you have cute one single and cute one multi in the pqr pull down slots...etc.
    Also, on top of this. If I am not mistaken, CD's are boss only on initial load, so if you want it to be automatic, you need to hit Right Control to change it from Boss only to either Off or Auto. Besides that, I can't think of anything that would make Rip not apply. Is it the latest update of here profile? Go into Rotation Editor > Select Druid under Class > Select Profile under Profile > Click Download Update. The latest update is 1.4.1.

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    Originally Posted by jamesws70 View Post
    I'm level 90 with an average ilvl of approximately 476. Talents are Feline Swiftness, Ysera's, Typhoon, Soul of the Forst, Ursol's Vortex and HotW.

    My 5 minute DPS was 23k. I managed 33k manually with no real experience. That is without cooldowns.
    change this Ursol's Vortex into mighty bash the profile is awesome with interrupt

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    Combat actions

    Faerie Fire if not up on the target
    Keep Savage Roar up.
    Healing Touch if Predatory Swiftness is up and you have 4 combo points on your target
    Healing Touch if Predatory Swiftness is up and you have 1.5 seconds left on the buff
    Tiger's Fury only if energy is below 35 (So you won't energy cap)
    Sync Berserk right after Tiger's Fury (it's worth waiting for TF)
    Rip if it will be atleast 15% stronger (See bleed ratios)
    Ferocious Bite if target is below 25% and Rip is up and below 3-4 seconds, no matter how many CPs you have.
    Rake if it will be atleast 12% stronger (See bleed ratios)
    Thrash if Omen of Clarity is up and Thrash is down or below 3-4 seconds
    Virmen's Bite if DoC, TF and optimal agility procs are up. Target below 25% health and 5cps on the target followed by Rip.
    Rip if at 5 combo points.
    Shred to extend Rip if it's about to fade.
    Ferocious Bite if at 5 CPs and Rip has 8 seconds or more duration.
    Sync every other Rake with Tiger's Fury and preferably DoC.
    Shred if OoC is up.
    Thrash if Thrash(DoT) is down and 5CPs on your primary target.
    Shred to build combo points..
    was curios how many of this is the feral rotation respecting, just curios as i am just leveling a druid

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    firepong's Avatar Elite User
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    Originally Posted by tinyblaze View Post
    was curios how many of this is the feral rotation respecting, just curios as i am just leveling a druid
    It pretty much does all of that, though I think she left it up to the user on if they ant to use Potions in the fight. Don't think that is coded in.

    The funny ass thing is "Ferocious Bite if at 5 CPs and Rip has 8 seconds or more duration." has been done in my rotation (When I was still updating it instead of helping Cute when I can) since Cata. They just recently changed it to 8 seconds or higher 2 patches ago on TheFluidDruid. Made me laugh when I seen them finally change this. back in Cata when I started and I had it set to < 6 seconds, it was actually loosing DPS over > 8 seconds.

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    How do I turn off the Auto Interrupt for Warrior Profile and is the Defensive coodlowns linked with offensive cooldowns by pressing Right Control or something else? Thanks

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    Perhaps it was because I didn't have the multi in the drop down as well before. I "Downloaded Updates" as well as put both single and multi in the drop downs and it works just fine now. I'm managing 56k with no gems/enchants and I'm not hit/exp cap'd just yet.

    Time to reforge/gem

    Now I need to find a good Moonkin script

    Thanks for the assistance and timely replies.

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    Originally Posted by Cranley123 View Post
    How do I turn off the Auto Interrupt for Warrior Profile and is the Defensive coodlowns linked with offensive cooldowns by pressing Right Control or something else? Thanks
    Should be able to remove "Interrupts" and "Defensive" from the Rotation list in pqr for the profile.

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    Hey, using the druid rotation version 141. In combat I get this error:

    Code:
    Message: [string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:574: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
    Time: 10/04/13 23:34:25
    Count: 4
    Stack: [C]: ?
    [string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:574: in function <[string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:542>
    Doesn't seem to be all the time so not sure what's causing it.

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    Originally Posted by nukomave View Post
    Hey, using the druid rotation version 141. In combat I get this error:

    Code:
    Message: [string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:574: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
    Time: 10/04/13 23:34:25
    Count: 4
    Stack: [C]: ?
    [string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:574: in function <[string "if not PQR_LoadedDataFile then..."]:542>
    Doesn't seem to be all the time so not sure what's causing it.
    Hello there, 1st of all thanks for all the hard work!

    I am getting the same type of error as the person above when I used the feral druid profile in ToT LFR today, not sure what's causing it. It just happens randomly in and even out of combat.

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    I'm having loads of fun with Arms, Thanks a lot for all the time and effort you put in these profiles.

    Yesterday i tried your Assassination, as soon as i load the profile in PQI i get lots of UI error from my other add-ons Bug grabber add-on stops working due to too many errors and some of my add-ons stop working (Carbonite and Poisoner comes in mind).

    Rotation seems to be working but i don't have this problem with other Rogue profiles and Other Class profiles and even your own Arms profile.

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    i have some questions, the feral profile does a mangle/shred as the first attack coming out of stealth. Wouldn't ravage be superior? as it will crit 100% thus generating 2 combo points in the start?
    also will the profile keep tiger's fury to be used for every other shred and is DoC supported as in it will apply bleeds with the debuff or just continue with the rotation after getting the buff
    last thing:
    Mangle>Shred is a dps increase, albeit not much of one in terms of raw numbers.

    Both Mangle/Shred increase the Rip duration by 2 seconds (maximum of 3 times or 6 seconds).
    Mangle costs less energy at the sacrifice of less damage and no positional requirement. That 7 energy over the course of a fight adds up to give Mangle a better damage per energy (DPE) then Shred. Those extra combo points are used for re-applying bleeds when you have RPPM procs (RoR/Renataki). Currently rank 1 feral uses this. He only uses shred during berkserk
    so could that be added to the profile? maybe as a toggle for prefference
    Last edited by tinyblaze; 10-06-2013 at 01:30 AM.

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    ^ Tinyblaze, the feralprofile does Ravage when you attack from behind in stealth, doesnt it? Thats how I remember it anyway. DoC is working with bleeds iirc.

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    That´s not correct , i´ve tried this now a couple of times and he never uses ravage

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    Originally Posted by Bottter View Post
    That´s not correct , i´ve tried this now a couple of times and he never uses ravage
    I and many others can tell you it does as I use it all the time to open with. Main issue could be when you goto attack that you are not behind, the detection is accurate and sensitive, the target.

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