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    Thanks for the LOG, it seems a Blizzard issue since there is no SPELL_AURA_REFRESH for Agony after it reaches 10 stacks, that is why profile thinks it needs a refresh. Ok this I will have to see on wednesday but I have a workaround ready in case after patch this remains a problem. And I'm glad you solved your problem with keys not working

    @Warlock2000 yes and no, the thing is that dots when they are SS'd are snapshoted so at start is ok to spread them around but they also retain their duration so SS'ing them from target to target is worth if duration is long enough to get benefit from it. But as always we will have checks for that and if it's not worth it we can always SB:SS. Though one thing came to mind and must be tested.
    For example you have a TARGET and BOSS1. Target has your supercharged dots but with duration of lets say 5 seconds, and BOSS1 has no dots. If we SB:SS BOSS1 to get dot uptime and then SS from target to BOSS1, will it add the duration of dots from target to boss1 to existing ones with their power? Because if it would then there is a way to get supercharged dots around all time
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    Ok, just tested it on PTR, the SS'd dots on your exhale target are completely overwritten in both power and duration, so SS'ing will be good if dots on your primary target are stronger and longer lasting, I'll have to make a calculation about that so we don't waste too much time for nothing.
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    awesome news Nil I'm at 541 ilvl and at 9778 haste breakpoint for affliciton but im staying at it because mastery will be favored for 5.4 so I don't wanna gem for haste but I did 342k DPS on council in LFR, I just love how it automatically refreshes dots on each boss! I think I might run affliction this next H ToT guild raid for all bosses, that's how much I love the profile

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    Originally Posted by jshookz View Post
    awesome news Nil I'm at 541 ilvl and at 9778 haste breakpoint for affliciton but im staying at it because mastery will be favored for 5.4 so I don't wanna gem for haste but I did 342k DPS on council in LFR, I just love how it automatically refreshes dots on each boss! I think I might run affliction this next H ToT guild raid for all bosses, that's how much I love the profile
    yeah, nice dps and nice to know you like it
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    Ok let's start some theory.
    My current finding are that now that we have Soul Swap on the loose we must use it as much as possible to save shards for Haunt that is boosted and that boosts our dots so we have higher uptime.
    For now untill we can have some more data I have made my test profile auto Soul Swap to new targets but since it copies dots duration I have made a condition that dots that are being copied must have some usefull duration, for example Agony 22 seconds, Corruption 15 seconds and UA 11 seconds. This basically saves us the initial application of dots which we can now prolong to maximum duration. It will be enabled for all boss targets, focus and mouseover. Primary target from which we always snapshot dots is our "target" since it is most likely that it will be the target with highest dot time remaining.
    Would like to hear opinions on this one
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    I created a check for DoT power on current target in regards to maximizing Haunt uptime on it when dots are empowered. Only thing left is finding a good percentage of dot power to prefeer keeping haunt up. I'm experimentig with 65% boosted dots so absolute value 165%. We'll see how it goes since dots can be boosted all the way up to 250% depending on procs but that is very rare.
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    damn looking good so far very excited!

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    Originally Posted by nilrem2004 View Post
    Ok let's start some theory.
    My current finding are that now that we have Soul Swap on the loose we must use it as much as possible to save shards for Haunt that is boosted and that boosts our dots so we have higher uptime.
    For now untill we can have some more data I have made my test profile auto Soul Swap to new targets but since it copies dots duration I have made a condition that dots that are being copied must have some usefull duration, for example Agony 22 seconds, Corruption 15 seconds and UA 11 seconds. This basically saves us the initial application of dots which we can now prolong to maximum duration. It will be enabled for all boss targets, focus and mouseover. Primary target from which we always snapshot dots is our "target" since it is most likely that it will be the target with highest dot time remaining.
    Would like to hear opinions on this one
    I'm going to hop onto ptr tonight, because your discussion is making it clear that the 5.4 changes to Soul Swap have huge ramifications all the way down the line. This is flying a bit under the radar for most Locks at the moment I think, and you're on to something good.

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    yeah Evrilia has already stated about the Soul swap changes on his channel so it's a pretty big deal :P

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    I'll check this out^^!


    For now untill we can have some more data I have made my test profile auto Soul Swap to new targets but since it copies dots duration I have made a condition that dots that are being copied must have some usefull duration, for example Agony 22 seconds, Corruption 15 seconds and UA 11 seconds. This basically saves us the initial application of dots which we can now prolong to maximum duration. It will be enabled for all boss targets, focus and mouseover. Primary target from which we always snapshot dots is our "target" since it is most likely that it will be the target with highest dot time remaining.

    One thing that jumps out about this, because the "target" will always have the highest power dots running on it, is that the "target" may still have useful dots for Soul Swaping, even at somewhat lower duration depending on the circumstances. I'm thinking of situations of medium health adds. Immerseus and the water droplet adds gives a good example of this. In that case using the "target" as a reservoir to swap dots onto the water droplets would be good even at low durations.


    *edit Ugh just recalled that Immerseus goes immune during that phase and may not be available as a "target". At any rate I hope what I'm saying is making sense.

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    I must say launching all these all these copied dots all over the place is going to be hella fun! Seriously raises the skill cap too.

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    hmmm, nice ideas although he will go immune but still tickles the mind with ideas. /drinks coffee and brainstorms
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    Originally Posted by warlock2000 View Post
    I'm going to hop onto ptr tonight, because your discussion is making it clear that the 5.4 changes to Soul Swap have huge ramifications all the way down the line. This is flying a bit under the radar for most Locks at the moment I think, and you're on to something good.
    Just to remind you profile won't work on PTR still because of Agony bug and Corruption spellID change. I have solved it already but still testing other things (Haunt), maybe I'll have PTR profile up for some of you today so you can test it on PTR.
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    I wouldn't bother with releasing it Nil, patch comes out in 2 days

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    yeah we'll see, I'm in process of writing bossmods, auto targeting, priorities and burnlist for SoO bosses
    After that trinkets and we're ready
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