How To Bot/get Account Back Safely

[mickellala]

then why do i get ip baned and i cant log on my other acc made on other comp ...wtf?

[darkriderking]

Not sure if you people know this or not, but if your 2 computers are on the same internet connection, they will have the same IP addresses. Also, Blizzard does not ban by IP.

ok when you say someone hacked my acc after vacation w/e theyle check ips and if someone else was doing stuff wrong on s\dif comp and changed password on that comp blizz will think u were hacked also i posted that 2computers on same router or ip will prob not work IP Chicken - Whats my IP address? ip address lookup make sure there dif i think blizz goes by this and you can also get a very trusted friend somewhere else to make one and then you can bot. or other way around.

[darkriderking]

This is in the wrong forum, should be in scams.

no... how is this scamming? its a way to get an acc back if its caught botting.

[Maggalo]

ok when you say someone hacked my acc after vacation w/e theyle check ips and if someone else was doing stuff wrong on sdif comp and changed password on that comp blizz will think u were hacked also i posted that 2computers on same router or ip will prob not work (CAN'T QUOTE LINKS YET) make sure there dif i think blizz goes by this and you can also get a very trusted friend somewhere else to make one and then you can bot. or other way around.

The only problem with this is:

It would only likely work once (twice if you're lucky).

An example of your method (correct me if I'm wrong):

You play for a week on computer A on a different internet connection (most likely a friend's connection if you don't want to pay for two connections). After the week is up, You bot on computer B, which is most likely your own computer/connection, because one should keep an eye on it from time-to-time (plus, I doubt a friend would want to use one of his computers to bot constantly, and to have to change profiles, etc.). The GM spots you and pulls out the ban hammer, 1-hit ko. You email Blizz on another connection (emails contain IP information). You say "OMG! My account got hacked!" You give them the appropriate information and they verify it. Most likely, Blizz is going to keep a close eye on you and your account for a little while (especially if you claimed that you were hacked right after you got banned). If they see you connect on your current IP, they are going to know something is up. Also, remember that packets contain mac address information as well. So they'll know it's you (unless you bought a new network card or spoofed your current mac address; keep in mind that not only does you computer have a mac address, your router AND modem does as well). Even if you do spoof your mac address, you still have the problem with the IP address. I mean, if it's a dynamic IP address (like most are), then it will change after you unplug the modem/router. But if your friend's IP is from a different ISP, then you'll have no chance. However, if your friend lives nearby and you share the same ISP, maybe. Just remember that mac addresses are unique though. And with most setups, you have a modem, router, and network card which have mac addresses.

As to which mac addresses the server sees (just one or all) I'm not for sure. Still learning about networking.

Basically, if you decide to bot, just take every precaution: stay close to the computer (if possible), avoid both factions if AFK, and follow the sticky guide. Other than that, there's not much more I think one can do.

By using a bot, you pretty much already know that it is possible to get banned. Just keep the mindset of not caring if you get banned, and you'll have no worries.

Also, can someone tell me if you transfer a character that just reached 70 to another account (after having botted), can the new account get banned (even though it has never touched a bot)?

Edit: I actually think the server sees all mac addresses, mainly because the packet information is wrapped around the packet each time it goes through a device. This is how it works (or so I believe...CORRECT ME if I'm wrong):

(Modem IP/mac address(Router IP/mac address(Computer IP/mac address(Data))))

I think it looks like that ^^^^ a capsule with data in the center. So when the server get this packet, it strips it down to the data. Ugh...if only I still had that Networking+ book by Mike Myers!

[dtk]

Maggalo you are correct. Blizzard will just say someone at your home is boting for you, which is you!!!!!

Another good idea will be, you can say my little brother/son etc was boting but I am not hehe.

[darkriderking]

The only problem with this is:

It would only likely work once (twice if you're lucky).

An example of your method (correct me if I'm wrong):

You play for a week on computer A on a different internet connection (most likely a friend's connection if you don't want to pay for two connections). After the week is up, You bot on computer B, which is most likely your own computer/connection, because one should keep an eye on it from time-to-time (plus, I doubt a friend would want to use one of his computers to bot constantly, and to have to change profiles, etc.). The GM spots you and pulls out the ban hammer, 1-hit ko. You email Blizz on another connection (emails contain IP information). You say "OMG! My account got hacked!" You give them the appropriate information and they verify it. Most likely, Blizz is going to keep a close eye on you and your account for a little while (especially if you claimed that you were hacked right after you got banned). If they see you connect on your current IP, they are going to know something is up. Also, remember that packets contain mac address information as well. So they'll know it's you (unless you bought a new network card or spoofed your current mac address; keep in mind that not only does you computer have a mac address, your router AND modem does as well). Even if you do spoof your mac address, you still have the problem with the IP address. I mean, if it's a dynamic IP address (like most are), then it will change after you unplug the modem/router. But if your friend's IP is from a different ISP, then you'll have no chance. However, if your friend lives nearby and you share the same ISP, maybe. Just remember that mac addresses are unique though. And with most setups, you have a modem, router, and network card which have mac addresses.

As to which mac addresses the server sees (just one or all) I'm not for sure. Still learning about networking.

Basically, if you decide to bot, just take every precaution: stay close to the computer (if possible), avoid both factions if AFK, and follow the sticky guide. Other than that, there's not much more I think one can do.


2 dif computers with 2 dif internet ips
play on one with a dif ip then ur botting 1 use IP Chicken - Whats my IP address? ip address lookup to check if there dif then bot on the other this works better if you have 2 diffrent internet providers but will cost more for 2 sellers like shaw and telus
or just get a bro friend etc. and the my bro or dad was botting will prob nto work alot #1 they shouldent be on says blizz #2 still botting =(. etc

By using a bot, you pretty much already know that it is possible to get banned. Just keep the mindset of not caring if you get banned, and you'll have no worries.

Also, can someone tell me if you transfer a character that just reached 70 to another account (after having botted), can the new account get banned (even though it has never touched a bot)?

Edit: I actually think the server sees all mac addresses, mainly because the packet information is wrapped around the packet each time it goes through a device. This is how it works (or so I believe...CORRECT ME if I'm wrong):

(Modem IP/mac address(Router IP/mac address(Computer IP/mac address(Data))))

I think it looks like that ^^^^ a capsule with data in the center. So when the server get this packet, it strips it down to the data. Ugh...if only I still had that Networking+ book by Mike Myers!

[darkriderking]

wtf is with the flames -.- also the my dad/bro/son or w/e botted on my account wouldn't go to well.
and if the ips are dif it shouldent matter if there on same internet proivder may not work.

[Maggalo]

wtf is with the flames -.- also the my dad/bro/son or w/e botted on my account wouldn't go to well.
and if the ips are dif it shouldent matter if there on same internet proivder may not work.

No one is flaming you. :-/

We're just having a discussion about your method. As to your response, the only problem is is that you would have to have two ISPs (or two connections). That racks up more dough than me just buying another WoW account (unless your lucky enough to live in an area with SBC DSL ). In fact, paying for two internet connections where I live would net me abouth the cost of a new WoW account a month. Or if you get someone else to bot for you, then you have to make sure they would even keep an eye on it for you and switch profiles, etc (pretty much do any of the work that is required to level with Glider).

The reason I mentioned it would be best if it's on the same ISP was because you could still use your own connection in WoW (if they don't check mac addresses). It would just be weird on Blizz's end seeing that you originally played with a Sprint connection, got hacked by a person using an AT&T connection, and yet, when they restore your account you are using an AT&T connection.

Ugh...still need to figure out about the mac addresses. Not for sure if just the source mac or all of them. If they just check the source of the mac address, it could be as simple as unplugging your modem/router (to get a new IP) and spoofing the mac on your network card (through software). Dunno.

Just remember no one is flaming you, and that this community thrives on advice from each individual.

[wiperot]

you are very wrong two computers cannot connect to the same IP address its impossible cause each and every ip address is is ment for that machine. Thats why you need a router so you can get 2 ip addresses or more how do you think the computers at your local library and school get connected, not only do they have their own servers but each computer has to have its own ip in order to connect. So read up and learn more about computers before you open your mouth about something you know absolutely know nothing about.

I love when people make complete asses out of themselves. It's quite entertaining.

[crazymonk]

Blizz does not IP ban because there is no way for them to tell which IP's are dynamic and which are static. If they went around banning everyone who got caught doing something bad by IP, then a lot of people would not be able to get on.

They will ban multiple accounts if the same credit card is used however, so my advice to you botters (coming from one) is to use game cards or use credit cards listed under different names.

I use a different CC for each of my accounts (I use my relatives) and even thought some do get banned occasionally, none of them have ever been banned together.

[darkriderking]

get a friend or go on a friends comp play legit for a bit there ya go

[gunner999]

it dosent work

[R4mbo | Mr. R]

ARRRRGGGG... ok
You have 2 IP's!
First = LAN IP (which is needed to communicate with a router and other PCs or even Videogameconsoles which support it)
Second = ISP IP (Given by your internet provider, its needed to communicate with servers and clients over teh Internet).

If you want 2 PCs, with 2 different ISP-IPs, you need 2 internet connections, or 1 pc must use a proxie!