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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Just saying, there has been a lot of QQ in the PvP community lately about interrupt hackers. PQR makes it very easy to download and have a working interrupt hack in seconds. Now, there have been waves of QQ in the past, but this time it might be more serious due to the merging of battlegroups and a sudden influx of players more inclined to use third party programs.

    I may well be mistaken here, but looking at the default interrupt profile the minimum delay is set absurdly low:

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    --This is the delay before interrupting in seconds.
    PQR_InterruptDelay = 0.05
    That means you've got noobs downloading PQR, using it in competitive PvP (probably with "interrupt all spells" enabled), doing the most impossible interrupts that are basically an advertisement of the fact they are cheating.

    Something needs to be done about that, at the very least the default profile should interrupt at a random cast percentage. Make no mistake, they won't care if some chap with a disability is using it to help kill raid bosses, if they go after PQR whatever method of detection is used would likely not discriminate.

    I strongly suggest Xelper changes this to prevent PQR coming further under the radar due to abuse in PvP.
    Been saying that for a while now that people should not be using the interrupt in pvp since 1) it's broadcasting to everyone that you're using third party and 2) once people figure it out, they'll just juke you anyways.
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    Originally Posted by kuukuu View Post
    Been saying that for a while now that people should not be using the interrupt in pvp since 1) it's broadcasting to everyone that you're using third party and 2) once people figure it out, they'll just juke you anyways.
    Definitely, but also like the guys complaining are saying, by the time you work out the enemy is using an interrupt hack it can be too late.

    Is Xelper about lately? I sent him a PM but didn't get a response. I have a strong feeling that if the default interrupt profile was tweaked to interrupt at a random percentage (i.e. 30-60%) then there would be a sudden drop off of people using the program solely with the intent of interrupt hacking. I don't think this would have any repercussions in PvE would it?

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Definitely, but also like the guys complaining are saying, by the time you work out the enemy is using an interrupt hack it can be too late.

    Is Xelper about lately? I sent him a PM but didn't get a response. I have a strong feeling that if the default interrupt profile was tweaked to interrupt at a random percentage (i.e. 30-60%) then there would be a sudden drop off of people using the program solely with the intent of interrupt hacking. I don't think this would have any repercussions in PvE would it?
    I use random 0-60 for PvE.. Best way imo. For PvP 30-60 would seems more realistic.

    I dont feel it would be an issue in PvE as long as Channel is instant.


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    Xelper already said that he can replace the default interrupt profile as soon as you / we send him the replacement code.

    About the ongoing interrupt hack complaints on the official forum: I am not sure that it is caused by PQR but increasing the delay / replacing the interrupt code would help a bit for sure. On the other hand i saw Vitalic's promo video on the US and EU forums too as an evidence of combat reading hacks in arenas and BGS. Unfortunately i can not find or google the topics anymore.

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    Originally Posted by Maxitor View Post
    Xelper already said that he can replace the default interrupt profile as soon as you / we send him the replacement code.

    About the ongoing interrupt hack complaints on the official forum: I am not sure that it is caused by PQR but increasing the delay / replacing the interrupt code would help a bit for sure. On the other hand i saw Vitalic's promo video on the US and EU forums too as an evidence of combat reading hacks in arenas and BGS. Unfortunately i can not find or google the topics anymore.
    Yes it did get a little attention, but it was in the context of complaints about interrupt hacks, even so I removed all my videos for now.

    I'll see what I can do about tweaking the default profile and making it more human, I'm thinking it could detect if you are in a PvP environment and use a different percentage range depending on what you are doing. So 20-70 in PvP and maybe 10-50 in PvE (with 0-10 on channeled casts).

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Yes it did get a little attention, but it was in the context of complaints about interrupt hacks, even so I removed all my videos for now.

    I'll see what I can do about tweaking the default profile and making it more human, I'm thinking it could detect if you are in a PvP environment and use a different percentage range depending on what you are doing. So 20-70 in PvP and maybe 10-50 in PvE (with 0-10 on channeled casts).
    This can work if PQR is the reason of those complaints.

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    I was bored the last few days so I began working on kind of a Framework for PQR. It's a OOP approach to the default API, so instead of e.g. UnitName("player") you can access it by variable.name() or variable.level() etc.. Modules are currently unit, spells, rune, util, healbot (NYI), event and color.

    Is there interest in this kind of "central function hub" style framework and if yes, what features would you like to have it?
    PM me if you are interested in helping to develop it.

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    Guys who have profiles for rogue (muti) 4.3.4?

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    PQR_UnitInfo("target") returning nil as of today for me ? any one else ?

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    Right, I updated the default interrupt profile as described above:

    https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7535883

    Here is a diff to show what changed.

    Tried to keep the change as light as possible, have tested it inside/outside PvP and it works as intended. Thoughts? Anyone want to sanity check it/make sure it doesn't break PvE?

    This behavior should be much more human like, I also increased the minimum delay to 0.1 seconds (in line with the best human reaction times) should Blizzard ever try doing some server side detection.

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Right, I updated the default interrupt profile as described above:

    https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7535883

    Here is a diff to show what changed.

    Tried to keep the change as light as possible, have tested it inside/outside PvP and it works as intended. Thoughts? Anyone want to sanity check it/make sure it doesn't break PvE?

    This behavior should be much more human like, I also increased the minimum delay to 0.1 seconds (in line with the best human reaction times) should Blizzard ever try doing some server side detection.
    Was about to raid Ill test it right away. Tyvm!


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    Could someone please explain why i should use PQR over HB + Tyrael?

    I downloaded and installed PQR yesterday and a routine i found on this forum and my character just stood there spamming 1 skill. I'm sure i haven't set it up correctly.

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    Originally Posted by Ashton187 View Post
    Could someone please explain why i should use PQR over HB + Tyrael?

    I downloaded and installed PQR yesterday and a routine i found on this forum and my character just stood there spamming 1 skill. I'm sure i haven't set it up correctly.
    PQR is a lot more lightweight than HB since its only about keeping up your rotation mainly, what profile did you try?

    I recommend you read this guide first:
    http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...p-use-pqr.html
    Then to check this thread for all the current free profiles:
    http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...1252013-a.html

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    Hey, thanks for the reply.

    I used http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...-profiles.html ([PQR] Mavmins PQR Profiles) Destro updated profile by Nilrem.

    I just stood there spamming incinerate against a target dummy.

    Reading through the first link you posted (The guide), the only thing i didn't do was enable loading out of date addons.

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    Did you install PQInterface? Because that profile require that addon:

    PQInterface - PQRotation Wiki

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