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  1. #10411
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    I'll be a risk taker for the community, Will post what happens if anything.

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    After reading up on this I have to agree. I mean HB saying that it was not targeted by this security patch. On top of like EVERY single offset changing in PQR just does not sit well with me. I am advising mine to not use it until people understand more of what this new security is doing. If I had to bet on top used programs, imo, It would be HB and PQR. So Im wondering if this may have beeen the target.

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    I especially think HB trying to justify the banwave of HB Users this weekend.

    Say that there is new feature detection is blaming others. In addition, it gives no information.

    Credibility : 10% , no more.

    However, keep in mind that it is currently not very advisable to use the PQR.
    So tell your Guildmaster you have a crappy connection or another to justify your light dps

    Hopefully this wonderful prog is still viable and very secure for our accounts, and for the community

    Edit:
    I think in my opinion it is possible that blizzard can trace their secured via a reading of our addons.
    The PQI is in direct connection with the PQR, it can be dangerous because if blizzard detects the addon, they detect (imo) the prog.

    So, for my part, I temporarily discourages the use of PQR until we are better informed of the nature of the warning.
    Last edited by Neyia; 06-13-2013 at 01:32 PM.

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    Originally Posted by TwistedSelf View Post
    After reading up on this I have to agree. I mean HB saying that it was not targeted by this security patch. On top of like EVERY single offset changing in PQR just does not sit well with me. I am advising mine to not use it until people understand more of what this new security is doing. If I had to bet on top used programs, imo, It would be HB and PQR. So Im wondering if this may have beeen the target.
    I've been thinking for a while that they will target PQR at some point. The fact people are making serious money by charging for private profiles will not go over well at Blizz HQ, they hate that more than anything. It probably is a false alarm but the people claiming that "they will never detect PQR" are talking out of their backside.

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    Everything is detectable as long as you can afford to see.
    All we can do is discourage the use of PQR, and start thinking ahead to Blizzard.
    New security? Ok
    - We inform a maximum on that
    - The system of PQR are reviewed, it is changed to the sights of security are totally useless.

    Since I play WoW, I had 4 bans the use of HB, and absolutely none for the PQR, I even discuss IG with MJ while PQR was active on a boss.
    So if HB claims that Blizzard added security, it is (imo) because HB is so old compared to PQR.

    HB much lag, the servers are unstable (always problems shutdown), and are constantly a victim banwave. The fact that HB is already unstable, create a scope on the safety of Blizzard.

    And PQR? nothing like that.
    Last edited by Neyia; 06-13-2013 at 01:44 PM.

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    To say that it's undetectable, or very low detection might be going too far, but compared to the full automation that something like HB offers? It's pretty safe in comparison I think.

    But that only effects actual player reports of people doing bad stuff.

    The hooks into WoW, or whatever you call it that lets PQR control your abilities, would get detected just as quick as the same "hooks" HB uses. So in the end, doesn't matter what program you are using, as it all has to hook into WoW to control it.

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    Originally Posted by Morx View Post
    To say that it's undetectable, or very low detection might be going too far, but compared to the full automation that something like HB offers? It's pretty safe in comparison I think.

    But that only effects actual player reports of people doing bad stuff.

    The hooks into WoW, or whatever you call it that lets PQR control your abilities, would get detected just as quick as the same "hooks" HB uses. So in the end, doesn't matter what program you are using, as it all has to hook into WoW to control it.
    When you meet a player who uses HB BG, it is calculated directly
    While we rarely imagine a player uses the PQR if he does not abuse configurations (kick too fast, all that).

    Just a single player can quickly perceive that players use HB and signals, and this is one of the new security of Blizzard: gamers who denounces.

    In short, we strongly have more information to be fixed.

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    I find speculation to be fairly worthless when dealing with Blizzard, if they want to specifically target something they can, and they very rarely if ever give any hints publicly about it.

    That being said, PQR does work in a very similiar manner to a lot of other bots and tools when it comes to one thing: Executing Lua code. Actually, that's about the very only thing PQR actually does. HB does it, tools for HB do it (such as HBRelog), and a host of other hacks also do it, and they all tend to do it in a very similar way. If there was one thing Blizzard could do to hurt a lot of hacks at once, that is it. I'm not saying any controversial here, Blizzard's employees would have to be completely incompetent to not know it. So until I am sure that this is not what Blizzard is monitoring, I won't publicly push out the offsets.

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    I doubt you are going to see any confirmation. unless someone outright reverse engineers the code and it can be seen what and how it is targeting, and publishes the result. from the confusion it's causing over at HB I have a feeling whatever it is, it's not anything simple and obvious.

    Problem is, in these banwave outright detection type situations, blizzards waits for weeks. People got banned in Pirox archeology wave even though they last used it 2 months prior. for all anyone knows they've been flagging accounts since 5.3 went live and there is nothing we can do about it now.

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    I will keep using PQR to test it out, don't care about my account anyways
    Will report if i get the hammer.
    But really hope they don't get PQR if i had to press all those buttons myself my fingers would just fall off or get bone cancer

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    Originally Posted by Xelper View Post
    So I have been on vacation for a couple weeks now. I just got back and have been reading up on the changes to hack detection and such, so for the next short while I recommend avoiding using any hack. I assume someone already released the offsets for PQR, so you can use them at your own risk, but I will not put up the offsets on the downloader until I am comfortable that it is safe to do so.

    To be clear, I have no reason to believe there is anything in place, this is just being done as a precaution.
    Playing wow without PQR is absolutely miserable, I personally was about to quit wow when I found it. Now my fingers don't hurt! I'll continue to play using PQR and if I get banned, so be it.

    With that said i played all last night using it and haven't got an email yet.

    /edit/ i wonder if i can get a doctors note saying PQR is good for my fingers health?

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    im not afraid! i will pqr the shit out of wow! however i am not raiding until monday ^^

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    please upload the full program pqr on any file sharing , my pqr has stopped working before i push the button load new offsets =( thx very mach.

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    is there allready an update for the patch 5.3 17055 ?
    or new offests? cause my pqr isnt working :S

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    You guys obviously are too thickheaded to pay attention to this thread begging for offsets. A. There's semi done offsets posted by the public members. B. The creator has said MULTIPLE times that he will not release the offsets publicly as he's not sure about the change in detection. Learn to read.

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