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    Originally Posted by averykey View Post
    Where is his profile i would like to test it, if i think it is the profile i was testing against it waste 1-2hp for a inq instead of the full 3 - If you look at simcraft, and also test against a dummy that is wrong and a dps loss.
    dont take the dummy as a good comparison ... the dummy does not have debuffs and other things that a reall boss in a real raid setup has , and also procs have to be taken into acount ... lots of things ... just search trough GRB's post and get his latest ret profile ... its been doing wonders to my dps im 388ilvl and doing 50k dps on DW 10 man normal , ow and also you need to be smart on CD usage .... bad CD usage can mean -2/3k dps at the end
    Last edited by ace99ro; 02-01-2012 at 03:26 PM.

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    Originally Posted by ace99ro View Post
    dont take the dummy as a good comparison ... the dummy does not have debuffs and other things that a reall boss in a real raid setup has , and also procs have to be taken into acount ... lots of things ... just search trough GRB's post and get his latest ret profile ... its been doing wonders to my dps im 388ilvl and doing 50k dps on DW 10 man normal , ow and also you need to be smart on CD usage .... bad CD usage can mean -2/3k dps at the end
    Edit: Missed the point
    Last edited by [Blinded]; 02-01-2012 at 03:31 PM.

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    Originally Posted by averykey View Post
    Can someone please make a better ret pally profile? I see lots of errors in the current ones, including my own. I can only pull 32-33k on H morchok 60k on zon'ozz 37k on ultra. While lesser geared warriors using qwertys epic profile see 40k-70k+ like its nothing.

    Would be very cool if someone could work on one, Here is my current profile, not very good but pulls the best dps out of all the current ones out Download Avery's.Ret.paladin.rar @ UppIT, here is the simcraft data for perfect rotation.

    Action Priority List
    # action,conditions
    0 flask,type=titanic_strength
    1 food,type=beer_basted_crocolisk
    2 seal_of_truth
    3 snapshot_stats
    4 golemblood_potion,if=!in_combat|buff.bloodlust.react|target.time_to_die<=40
    5 auto_attack
    6 judgement,if=buff.judgements_of_the_pure.down
    7 guardian_of_ancient_kings,if=cooldown.zealotry.remains<10
    8 zealotry,if=cooldown.guardian_of_ancient_kings.remains>0&cooldown.guardian_of_an cient_kings.remains<292
    9 avenging_wrath,if=buff.zealotry.up
    A crusader_strike,if=holy_power<3
    B judgement,if=buff.zealotry.down&holy_power<3
    C inquisition,if=(buff.inquisition.down|buff.inquisition.remains<=2)&(holy_power>= 3|buff.divine_purpose.react)
    D templars_verdict,if=buff.divine_purpose.react
    E templars_verdict,if=holy_power=3
    F exorcism,if=buff.the_art_of_war.react
    G hammer_of_wrath
    H judgement,if=set_bonus.tier13_2pc_melee&buff.zealotry.up&holy_power<3
    I wait,sec=0.1,if=cooldown.crusader_strike.remains<0.2&cooldown.crusader_strike.re mains>0
    J holy_wrath
    K consecration,not_flying=1,if=mana>16000
    L divine_plea
    I would take a look at this but I do not have an 85 paladin.

    edit: I checked it out and obviously the coding isn't an issue, but since I don't have a paladin I can't check it out first hand. Have you compared your numbers with simcrafts expected output to see where the problem might lie?
    Last edited by Bossqwerty; 02-01-2012 at 03:44 PM.

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    gavw's Avatar Member
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    Boss 33k on dummy over 10/15mins nice new rotation the heroic leap is a really nice addition good job mate !

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    For the people who were wanting a upgraded Feral Cat DPS profile, here is my updated version of FireKitteh's Feral Rotation. Most credit goes to him for creating it, I just added in support for 2P and 4P T13. It does not waste any Ravage! procs as well as tries to pull as much DPS out of Berserk and Tigers Fury. As for Combo Points, when it senses that Rip is at 40% duration left, it will not waste combo points on Ferocious Bite or Savage Roar because it will most likely not have enough time to get 5 Combo Points to re-apply Rip before it falls off. Which, if Rip falls off, that is a 100% DPS loss as its one of your top 3 damaging attacks.

    Link:

    FireKitteh_CatDPS_Tier_Upgraded.rar

    If you have any suggestions on upgrades to this shoot it my way.

    P.S. I only take credit for the tier upgrades and Berserk/Tigers Fury changes. Everything else goes to the creater of the FireKitteh profile. Before you shoot rep anywhere, consider sending it to the creater of the profile first. Only then, will I gladly accept rep for the changes

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    ace99ro's Avatar Sergeant Major
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    @ Blinded that was about the retri pala profile

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    Originally Posted by ace99ro View Post
    @ Blinded that was about the retri pala profile
    Yes Yes i know, but i thought he meant that SimCraft doens't work for dummyfights
    So my post was :/

    Shouldn't work on my profile and poste here at the same time

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    Only then, will I gladly accept rep for the changes
    man I was about to hit it too...


    On a side not I was wondering if anybody had a working will of the forsaken script?
    Last edited by Shamrockstar; 02-01-2012 at 03:44 PM.

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    @Boss, how's the SMF profile doing? :3

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    On my code for my Ret Pally rotation, if it sees it will not get HP fast enough to get a 3HP Inquisition, it will pop Inquisition early just to keep it up. It is not necessarily a DPS loss if you use 1 or 2 and not 3HP because you will have a bigger DPS loss when Inquisition is not up compared to wasting a HP or 2 to keep it up. This gets more minimal when you get 2P T13 and that extra HP from Judgement because you will have another source for HP instead of the usual spells.

    But if you don't want the rotation to cast Inqusition till you get 3HP, just go into the code and change it to where it will never cast until you have 3HP.

    It is not necessarily a DPS loss if you use 1 or 2 and not 3HP because you will have a bigger DPS loss when Inquisition is not up
    I thought this as well and asked on ej, and a top ret pally as well as testing it myself. Both said that it is fine to have it off for a few seconds, inq works like this, 1hp 12secs-10%damage boost 2hp 24secs 20% damage 3hp 36secs 30% damage, it is a dps loss to be doing 10% damage for any amount of time when you could be doing 30% more.

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    Originally Posted by kickmydog View Post
    I've updated my SV hunter profile, and added a little tweak for BM hunters.

    Hunter Profile Jan 23 2012.rar

    I am also testing keep Serpent Sting on focus target, with cobra shot refreshing it. The abilities are in there if you want to test it out and let me know if it works for you or not.
    <<New user, but heard PQR was faster than HB's lazyraider so giving it a try.

    It is much better than the default one inside the zip folder, since that one didn't appear to use Arcane Shot at all. I'm averaging 23k, with 392 4set gear, on a raid dummy.

    My suggestions since 4.3.2's buff to Black Arrow, is it possible to make sure this is applied more. Also, I don't know if it is possible but can it switch aspects to fox when i move and then switch back to hawk when im still? Lastly, are you thinking about a AOE rotation?

    Thanks so much kickmydog for this awesome profile, it is my first awesome PQR I've used! I'm still learning the code behind the profiles so I'll try to help the best I can.

    -Masta

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    Originally Posted by Bossqwerty View Post
    I would take a look at this but I do not have an 85 paladin.

    edit: I checked it out and obviously the coding isn't an issue, but since I don't have a paladin I can't check it out first hand. Have you compared your numbers with simcrafts expected output to see where the problem might lie?
    It is just doing things in the wrong order, sometimes it will try to use 2 fillers in the zealotry rotation where it is supposed to be templar filler templar filler, the filler is supposed to be dp if 2hp crusader ;2 templar, not optimal with judge though in the 2hp and dp proc situation, because you have a delay in gcd before you recieve the hp. exo if art of war ; hammer of wrath ; holy wrath ; consecration.

    edit: It should also start trying to refresh inq but only at 3hp at 5 - 5.5 seconds, it would fall off less then and be a dps boost.



    Thanks for looking at it.
    Last edited by averykey; 02-01-2012 at 04:02 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Starphall View Post
    kinda weard it dismiss totem after 2 lightning bolt...them put them down back ?..
    Totem management need more testing, meanwhile remove call totems ability from rotation list.

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    Originally Posted by averykey View Post
    It is not necessarily a DPS loss if you use 1 or 2 and not 3HP because you will have a bigger DPS loss when Inquisition is not up
    I thought this as well and asked on ej, and a top ret pally as well as testing it myself. Both said that it is fine to have it off for a few seconds, inq works like this, 1hp 12secs-10%damage boost 2hp 24secs 20% damage 3hp 36secs 30% damage, it is a dps loss to be doing 10% damage for any amount of time when you could be doing 30% more.
    Ye, I usually hit it at 1 if its fixing to fall off to keep it up, then when I get 3 HP, I refresh. But if I know I'm not going to get 3 stacks in time before it falls and wont have it for a few sec, ill refresh with 1 just to have some kind of DMG increase. Better to have something than nothing

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    this is GRB's inq code :

    local Inq, _, _, _, _, _, time = UnitBuffID("player", 84963)

    if Inq ~= nil then
    if ( DP ~= nil or HolyPower == 3 ) and time - GetTime() <= 4 then
    return true
    end
    else
    if DP ~= nil or HolyPower >= 1 then
    return true
    end
    end

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