[BETA] PQRotation - an automated ability priority queue.

[Meatglue]

PQR is working as intended, your choice to dl and use or not just like anything else on this site. If Xelper wanted it to be any safer he wouldn't continue to update or even host here. I for one did not want him to upload it here as I knew it would grow big popularity but I am dealing with it. On a side note, is anyone else still getting that random disconnecting problem? I know someone read from a blue post saying they knew of the issue but maybe I am just paranoid. lol

[Gabbz]

PQR is working as intended, your choice to dl and use or not just like anything else on this site.

Fully understand that, i just pointing out that people that post to good profiles will/can force Blizzard to focus attention on PQR. It will happen if PQR starts impacting the game to much in regards of PVP ranking and WorldOfLogs.

[Bossqwerty]

Just a tought regarding the ban waves that currently are not hitting PQR. The issue is that with alot of the experts doing coding now days and the profiles are getting better and better will have the impact that will at some point be something that Blizzard must act on. This is especially true in the pvp/arena where this "hack" can easily destroy the rankings.

I have read comments about high rankings and if it is possible to get ranked for one player using this then of course soon 10-15 people using PQR will be ranked.

So i think there is a "usage" of the hack that are kind of harmless, playing alts in LFR and also perhaps DS, but there is also "usage" that will harm the game. And if we use it in a way that will harm then we will get Blizzards attention. We perhaps already have.

I hope you understand what i am saying, i dont think its wrong using it, but the way profiles are getting enhanced will be out of control soon.

So i can only see 2 solutions for this.
1: Move all profiles to elite section
2: Stop posting your profiles. Have one default per class if need be but do not enhance them so that they will dominate DPS/HPS charts or Arena rankings.

I am a leecher in many ways since i have extended some of the profiles and have not posted them here. But that have always been because of the impact of near perfect rotations.

So please be careful and do not harm the game by creating something that are to good.

This is a valid point. If things continue as they are a banwave is pretty much inevitable. Won't stop me from using it though. As of now only like 100 or so people are using my stance dance profile. Honestly this kind of program is something I'd pay for, so maybe take it in that direction to limit access?

[Meatglue]

We all know the risk, but there is a limit on what the profiles can do with pqr because of that fact. As he has said before though, anything is possible. We're risk takers. If you can't live without your account I suggest not using it at all. Suggesting the people spending time to make these profiles great to dumb them up for you is kind of ignorant is all. I am going to stop discussing this topic though as it is unrelated and this thread should focus on pqr and it's profiles.

[bu_ba_911]

This is a valid point. If things continue as they are a banwave is pretty much inevitable.

lol me and a member i code personally for have talked about this a long time to.....

the part that will get this program really focused on is Arena... I'm pretty sure blizz doesn't care as much that people are able to go further in their content that they would without this XD

maybe just release Arena Profiles in a more regulated area? but my main argument against that was............ it's a free program.... why would we limit the abilities of the profiles but not the program?

third argument that we thought up.... limit the program.... but that would probably mean a pay process and we all know blizzard hates people making money off their games so that may draw attention to.... however i believe the solution isn't limiting the profiles to people, but limiting the program is a safer way than making it a pay to unlock arena profiles and such..... just my 2 cents to


ALSO
huge shout-out to SHARGE found which ability was making HL cast only on players sometimes....... that will be fixed in the release i post shortly.... also a big shout-out to Onya.... decided i'd just steal their code after all since they went through the effort of morphing it for HR <3 doing final tests now

[vitalic]

This is a valid point. If things continue as they are a banwave is pretty much inevitable. Won't stop me from using it though. As of now only like 100 or so people are using my stance dance profile. Honestly this kind of program is something I'd pay for, so maybe take it in that direction to limit access?

There are already numerous blog posts from top players asking Blizz to ban this tool, I think Xelper needs to remove the "click button to win" features like auto kick, if you find or build a profile to kick certain spells for you that at least requires some effort, but to have auto kick built into the default GUI makes it so any idiot can download the tool and cheat, there are other tools that can do this as well, there is no sense in attaching additional risk to PQR by including this feature.

Regarding the recent banwave, apparently the update included a check for the sn0wball lua protection remover, so if PQR uses the same method for unlocking PLUA as that then it could still be detected.

[Gabbz]

Suggesting the people spending time to make these profiles great to dumb them up for you is kind of ignorant is all.

I dont understand why i am the ignorant here tbh. Think you are missing the point i am trying to make.

PQR is a great tool and i am using and i will continue using it. However all of the great profilers here need to be aware that by enhancing their profiles etc will in the end kill this "hack". Just the framework around the eventlistener, the HoL/Chain Heal range functionality. It is getting more and more sofisticated. At a certain point the profiles will be made perfect and by doing that and spreading it as we are doing now will for sure force blizzard to act. Giving away a profile that are decent, which many are today, that will help you play your alt in DS/LFR is a harmless use of the program. But giving away a profile that are making sure that you rank top 3 WW is something that should be exclusive for the profilers themself or where you actually need to contribute something.

[Gabbz]

third argument that we thought up.... limit the program.... but that would probably mean a pay process and we all know blizzard hates people making money off their games so that may draw attention to.... however i believe the solution isn't limiting the profiles to people, but limiting the program is a safer way than making it a pay to unlock arena profiles and such..... just my 2 cents to

I think that there are basically 2 kinds of users
1: Those who want to play their alts in raids. the dont have the time or skill to do it good so they can use PQR to get very decent DPS/HPS
2: People that play with there mains and think that they either do better by coding it and will make sure to enhance their profile to max them out

People in 2 can have a lot of alts and are also using PQR for reason 1. That is fine, the problem is if the first category gets hold of the second categories of profiles. That means all of sudden there are alot more people min/maxing the game.

For arena, it is not hard to create a profile that will really be unbeatable. Using event listening, range checks, etc. You are giving a machine gun to a 4 year old. As long as he can press alt+x he is unbeatable. Of course Blizzard will act. That is what i am trying to say. Either will the PQR community itself control the usage or Blizzard will make sure to control it. Its just up to us(if we still are in control of it) to act so that we do it and not Blizzard.

[Pwnzor187]

Hey bossqwerty can you make a ret paladin profile that follows simcraft perfectly? I have used your warrior profile and it is amazing, would be nice to see an amazing ret paladin profile.

Here is the one I am using right now, I am doing lots of stuff manually, Mainly defensive CDS/Cooldowns saving for certain phases.

Download:
Download Avery's.Ret.paladin.rar @ UppIT


Edit: For anyone who wants to use it, it is more optimal to judge at start, and if you get a dp proc stack zeal/aw but if no dp proc, just do aw followed by when zeal comes up.

Also try keeping inq up before going into a burn phase if its about to fall off, so use that 1 hp on it or 2, etc..

Pulled 60k on zon'ozz 25man. 394 ilvl

Thanks for the release, I just noticed the 'Judgement T13 2pc' ability, how does it work? should I just switch it out for Judgement in the current abilities list?

[bu_ba_911]

Updated Holy Paladin Profile code........ It freaking rapes.... Added in more options to save mana during fights, Fixed HR, Fixed HL, and fixed minor bugs that you probably never noticed

1-27-2012_HPally_Bubba.zip - bubba-pqr-profiles - 1-27-2012_HPally_Bubba - My Profiles for PQR - Google Project Hosting

let me know how it goes!!!

[Meatglue]

I think it's too late to say "im sorry about the pvp abilities, we will take it out for you Blizzard." It is too easy to change a pve profile to work for pvp. The interrupt feature is just as good for pve as it is pvp. I think people are just now realizing they have been "hacking" all this time. Admit it, you're a cheater and you can't help it. :P

[Sharge]

Bubba , Which holy radiance you want us to try


Holy radiance test
Holy radiance Onxy or
Holy radiance


Also should we add Onxy hr Targetfinder?

Hope you can help again ^^

[TommyT]

Updated Holy Paladin Profile code........ It freaking rapes.... Added in more options to save mana during fights, Fixed HR, Fixed HL, and fixed minor bugs that you probably never noticed

1-27-2012_HPally_Bubba.zip - bubba-pqr-profiles - 1-27-2012_HPally_Bubba - My Profiles for PQR - Google Project Hosting

let me know how it goes!!!

HL seems to cast then stop cast then stop
its not always but its pretty annoying

[bu_ba_911]

Bubba , Which holy radiance you want us to try


Holy radiance test
Holy radiance Onxy or
Holy radiance


Also should we add Onxy hr Targetfinder?

Hope you can help again ^^

it should already be properly setup for the currect HR, but i use the Holy Radiance Onya... Test was the working one where it cast it on yourself, the "Holy Radiance" one was the one i was playing around with

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HL seems to cast then stop cast then stop
its not always but its pretty annoying

thats the mana management kicking in, it will only stop casting if the target doesn't need to be healed anymore. so if there are aoe heals and people are all around 90% you will star casting holy, if they reach 94% health you will stop casting Holy Light because it's not needed anymore

*edit*
i've also adde din checks for if theres 5 people that fit the lowhpmembers check, that it will stop casting that to cast HolyRadiance as well..... and finally i added in a check that if you're casting HR and the lowhpmembers says there's less than 3 people that are low, it will stop casting HR....

[TehVoyager]

so obvious that some people are complete noobs at hacking, there is no such thing as undetectable, there is always a chance you could get caught

OR:
people are aware of this, and wondering if anyone using PQR was picked off in the most recent Banwave.

I was only using PQR and I have just been banned. Everyone be careful.

Are you 100% sure you havnt used ANYTHING else in the slightest bit questionable in the past 6 months?

just let them know you using a addon and if they ask what it is, just find the name of a addon that helps you with your certain classes rotation. For druids, its droodfocus that I was mainly using before I even knew of PQR.

You can also tell them you are using Ovale, with Leafkillers priority system.

Regarding the discussion about "its people using this in arena / BGs thats going to get the program banned"
If the Programmer wanted to fix that, he could make it detect "are we in a BG / Arena? Yes? Disable. Notify player."

done.

but it wont happen. and if it did, someone would pick up an older copy of it, or would back engineer to pull that limitation out.

I dont think im going to use this, as interesting as it sounds. i could live without my account, but i really dont want to replace everything or lose the old, no longer obtainable achievements and such that i currently have.

however, total props and respect to the programmer, and the people who make the profiles for this program.
Ingenuity at its finest