Any decent unholy spec rotation for 4.3?
Any decent unholy spec rotation for 4.3?
I've been trying to look into how to detect or at least "split" up Mind Flay into each induvidual ticks.
I've tried looking at the source of Quartz and other similar addons as to how they break it down into each induvidual tick but it didn't really help much.
For those of you out there who know LUA quite a bit better than what I do, wouldn't it essentially become something like the code bellow, as you offset the current latency at the same time;
For example, say I have so much haste that Mind Flay channels through at 2.23 seconds, having a latency on 56 and knowing Mind Flay gives off 3 ticks, the math should look like something like this;Code:local CurTime = GetTime() * 1000.0 local _,_,_,_,startTime,endTime = UnitChannelInfo("PLAYER") local TickInterval = (endTime - startTime + CurTime) / 3
2.23 + 0.056 = 2.286 / 3 = 0.762
Essentially, it should tick around every 0.762 seconds under those circumstances.
Now, to actually apply this in PQR, I'm at a loss. I can't really seem to wrap my head around how I could manage to determine how many ticks have passed, and/or how many ticks are left as latency and haste values change depending a lot of things.
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Or would it be better to maybe directly use it as this;
That's if my assumptions are right. Any help would be appreciated tho. :PCode:local _,_,_,_,_,endTime = UnitChannelInfo("player") local TickInterval = (endTime/1000 - GetTime()) / 3
Last edited by Kinky; 12-28-2011 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Updating
Just a question to the PQR community: What classes do you think can benefit most from PQR?
I'm mainly interested in the advantage it gives in PVP, but PVE feedback is useful too. When class balancing I'd imagine blizzard takes into account human testers rather than optimum ability assuming a perfect rotation.
I've been testing a bunch of classes and these are a few of my thoughts.
- Casters: A slight disadvantage over melee. The new PQR_ResetMovementTime makes casters able to cast non-instant spells quicker when stopping. This still has the problem of the user not knowing if an instant is currently higher priority however, for example, let's say I'm a frost mage and stop running expecting my rotation to switch to Frostbolt to slow the opponent, but there's actually a higher priority instant cast that fires instead. I could have kept running/kiting had I known this.
- Healers: Being able to heal in a calculated and mana efficient manner is extremely useful.
- Dispels: Any dispel/spellsteal class is in a very good position. Not only can you dispel with incredible reaction time, but it's not humanly possible to monitor buffs/debuffs on 10 people at once in arenas. Once I work out how to cycle arena opponents checking for dispellable buffs in a decent manner this should be all the more so.
- Melee/Hunters: Perhaps Ret paladin aside, melee classes don't have to worry about stopping to cast, and thus don't have to gamble with what PQR might be doing next.
And some tips:
- Create multiple rotations! I get around the caster issues with a button-tap rotation switch, to make sure I get that frostbolt slow off I need.
- Customise your rotation based on the target's class. For example, Demoralising Shout on rogues/warriors/hunters/DKs, save stuns for when the target is casting if they are a priest/warlock/mage.
- Take your focus target into account with any aoe abilities, to make sure you don't break CC in arenas. If I Polymorph the focus, and my focus is within interact range then my Frost Nova becomes disabled etc.
- Always have a pause button for your rotation so you can use your own abilities, PQR can't work out what your teammates are saying on vent.
- Pause and /stopattack for CCs on your target, so PQR doesn't automatically break them.
With a cleverly designed rotation, anyone can go from bad to glad in arena.
Could you explain how to do this, or upload the modified profil ?Update I removed T13 from the rotation, and it works fine. but note I have my 4pc set
Thanks !
Wow, this PQRotation tool is truly amazing! I'm using the Holy Paladin PVE No Mouseover profile and so far it's working nicely! I got to Madness of DW (10man) with it. Almost no wipes. I mean, the profile actually targets and heals a target instantly! And the reactions are even faster than the UPaCCBT Holy Paladin CC from HB. I didn't do anything apart from manually casting Holy Radiance and AM. The only downside is that the UPaCCBT is more configurable (uses more spells) but that's okay since I'm hoping the PQR profile will get updated and added with more stuff in the future.
Besides, I only have a few issues with the PQR profile and some questions:
1) The profile is no mouseover enabled, yes, but it sometimes doesn't heal myself. I even no targetted anybody or targetted the boss instead, it still doesn't heal myself. Only sometimes, though. Bug? Intended?
2) The Holy Radiance spell isn't good. Sometimes, it uses Holy Radiance on people that are even far away from each other (like 10 yards away). Lag?
Also, sometimes when everybody got to <40% (especially the tanks), the profile PQR uses Holy Radiance on them. Not good! Because people will then die. I guess PQR needs more checks for HR if we want the PQR to use it.
3) I'm wondering why didn't the profile include the Lay On Hands spell? Hmm.
4) Is it possible to implement something that lets PQR know what targets are tanks? Focustarget? So then maybe we can implement additional spells for the special targets (tanks) - (spells such as the Hand of Sacrifice, Protection, etc.)
Also, from my experience, while this PQR profile is faster than the UPaCCBT CC but the HPS difference from these two is not that much - both are quite similar. Hmm, I need to figure out what can be improved and what rotations should be changed.
Good job, Xelper and whoever else that created the Holy Paladin profile! ^^
Xelper how far out of the scope would a function that moves the mouse to your current target location be? Could it even be done? It would be helpful on a few profiles for hunter traps death knight DnD drops and I am sure there are others mage fire?
2) The Holy Radiance spell isn't good. Sometimes, it uses Holy Radiance on people that are even far away from each other (like 10 yards away). Lag?
Also, sometimes when everybody got to <40% (especially the tanks), the profile PQR uses Holy Radiance on them. Not good! Because people will then die. I guess PQR needs more checks for HR if we want the PQR to use it.
Think we all have this problem best way i have found is make another copy of the rotation an take holy radiance out so you can swap to if needed
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what i would really like is to knwo how to make pally holy pvp able to cleanse more things tryed entering my own it didnt seem to change anything can anybody help with this ?
I am too a user of the PQRotation Hpala and the UPaCCBT. For the PQR rotation the things that need to be fixed.
Lay on Hands needs to be added.
Light of dawn needs to be added.
HR needs to be changed so if say 3-4 people are ABOVE 40% but below 60% then it gets used.
Also a few of the current healing spells needs there health % adjusted (As soon as you start getting decent gear and high haste, this profile rapes your mana)
I did start making changes to see if i could fix the above, but been busy with the holiday season. Im not sure if bubba is still working on the HPala profile, but i will start it up again and see if i can make it better incase he does not add an update.
Hi all,
nice work on all the profiles and work that goes into this !
I was wondering if it's possible to set lifebloom for the restro druid profile to go on the person with the most HP or focused or can it be set to do it on the play with the most health + person withe defence stance / blood pressance / RD (for pallys) / bear form? (something like that)
also i want it to use swift mend more, almost on CD. it seems to rarely use it so i lose allot of HPS in raids =[
is this possible if so can someone todo?
For the Holy Radiance ability in buba's holy paladin profile, simply go in and add this just before the "then" in the "if" statement:
I set it to 60 for now, but might tweak it to be a bit later.Code:and PQR_CustomTargetHP > 60
I tried adding in Light of Dawn but it hasn't worked yet, need to do more testing (and preferably, find out a way to get some working proximity code).
This....
The spells that have the click>mouseover where you want ability placed>click again to set it.
Spell that I know of and I am sure there is more:
Death and decay
Rain of fire
Summon infernal
Trap launcher
The Mage circle of ice and fire ape spell.
Druids mushrooms
Rogues distraction
All I can think of that uses the click>mouseover>set
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