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    most of my hotkeys are bound to non number keys so would be more interested if it worked on all keys and not just some

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    Won't 30 keystrokes per second be classified as "inhuman" by Warden's AI ?

    What's the risk of actually getting banned for this shit ?

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    As i said in the first post, this program has a constantly changing window title and process id making it impossible for warden or any keyloggers to lock onto its running process. Also warden can only check for 3rd party apps that are running within the memory space of wow.exe. My program only sends input into the wow window, so again...warden cant detect it. In fact i started out posting on the wow forums and after a ton of newb flame posts, then after a response from me linking their terms of service and end user license agreement stating that there is nothing in there that comes anywhere near stating that it is not allowed... The forum admins mysteriously deleted the post with no reason or any responses sent to my wow account and i have been using it since a couple of weeks prior to this post.

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    I'm unsure about the risk for a plethora of reasons. First of all, reddeath's app is only one of many ways to skin this cat. The same procedure can be done using programs like AutoHotkey and programmable gaming keyboards Blizzard allows and supports (such as the Logitech G510). This program, technically, does not let you cheat. It does not let you circumvent spell cooldowns as far as I've seen, or let you automate your character's skills such as a LUA hack. At best, this app lets you optimize your play around Blizzard's rules and limitations (again, which any programmable keyboard/pad can do. I can accomplish the exact same results w/ my Z Fang).

    On the other hand, Blizz is gonna do whatever they damn well please, so whether or not this app is cheating or not, Blizz is gonna do whatever they damn-well please. Use at your own risk. As for me, reddeath, I love this app. Kudos, mate.

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    Tested the turbomode, and Ive hit a problem if I may say so. Its really hard to cast channeled aoe spells such as Blizzard, Flamestrike and Volley as they will automatically toggle them off if you click it twice too fast. So if there was a .5sec delay before the "turbo" started it would be a lot easier to manage. If there is one already added, its not working properly. Just my two cents!

    +rep

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    I recommend replacing channeled spells like that with macros.

    Code:
    /cast !Blizzard
    In theory, the ! will make toggling spells toggle on but not toggle off when spammed, according to Blizz, but there's been doubts as to its efficacy.

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    I would just like to vouch for this program. I've been using it for 4 days I think and it's improved my DPS. Not by a lot, but it is defiantly better. This + the GCD hack also released on these forums = major DPS jump, however it would be easy for someone to notice the DPS advantage. Which is a risk I will take ;P

    Edit: What would be really cool is when you opened the program up, you could click on the keys that you would like to be 'spammed' then click trim mode and start it.
    Last edited by Subgraf; 09-15-2010 at 01:10 PM.

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    Originally Posted by LaoArchAngel View Post
    I'm unsure about the risk for a plethora of reasons. First of all, reddeath's app is only one of many ways to skin this cat. The same procedure can be done using programs like AutoHotkey and programmable gaming keyboards Blizzard allows and supports (such as the Logitech G510). This program, technically, does not let you cheat. It does not let you circumvent spell cooldowns as far as I've seen, or let you automate your character's skills such as a LUA hack. At best, this app lets you optimize your play around Blizzard's rules and limitations (again, which any programmable keyboard/pad can do. I can accomplish the exact same results w/ my Z Fang).

    On the other hand, Blizz is gonna do whatever they damn well please, so whether or not this app is cheating or not, Blizz is gonna do whatever they damn-well please. Use at your own risk. As for me, reddeath, I love this app. Kudos, mate.
    The nice thing about my app is that when you lift your finger from the keys, it stops sending keystrokes where as the programmable game keyboards and autohotkey app is only able to send "X" amount of keys every time a keyboard key is pressed. I have the ideazon steelseries merc keyboard that you can program it to send...as an example lets say 15 key presses of the number 1 key when i press the number one key on my keyboard. So i press the 1 key and it sends 15 presses of the one key into windows and doesnt end or stop until it has completed. Thus the specific reason why i coded this little app.

    ---------- Post added at 07:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 AM ----------

    Originally Posted by minifss View Post
    Tested the turbomode, and Ive hit a problem if I may say so. Its really hard to cast channeled aoe spells such as Blizzard, Flamestrike and Volley as they will automatically toggle them off if you click it twice too fast. So if there was a .5sec delay before the "turbo" started it would be a lot easier to manage. If there is one already added, its not working properly. Just my two cents!

    +rep
    Ive run into this too with my warlock when i cast my rain of fire. I have rain of fire assigned to the "0" key and when i press it, it cancels before i get a chance to target with the big green rune circle, so i have to press and click my mouse really really quickly or it doesn't work, or when i have time i actually just move my mouse to the action bar and click on it. As far as channeled spells though, just keep the key pressed until you see the global cool down activate and the spell start to cast or channel, then quickly lift your finger from the key or macro it like LaoArchAngel said is pretty much all i can suggest, that or maybe assign those abilities outside of the regular 1 through = keys. Unfortunately programming a delay into it would kind of defeat the purpose of exploiting the global cooldown bug. thanks for the rep.

    ---------- Post added at 07:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:34 AM ----------

    Originally Posted by aribehn View Post
    Any way of making this work with the num pad keys etc? I'm using the Razer Naga so that'd be great :>
    Actually i have the naga too and you could just switch the mode from the number keypad to the regular keyboard numbers.

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    I like the Turbo Keys functionality but what's with the virtual keyboard? Windows comes shipped with an on-screen keyboard that does the same thing with no risk (unless Microsoft decides to start stealing wow accounts)

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    Originally Posted by Bazra View Post
    I like the Turbo Keys functionality but what's with the virtual keyboard? Windows comes shipped with an on-screen keyboard that does the same thing with no risk (unless Microsoft decides to start stealing wow accounts)
    The onscreen keyboard's keystrokes will get recorded by any keylogger.

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    Originally Posted by reddeath38 View Post
    The nice thing about my app is that when you lift your finger from the keys, it stops sending keystrokes where as the programmable game keyboards and autohotkey app is only able to send "X" amount of keys every time a keyboard key is pressed. I have the ideazon steelseries merc keyboard that you can program it to send...as an example lets say 15 key presses of the number 1 key when i press the number one key on my keyboard. So i press the 1 key and it sends 15 presses of the one key into windows and doesnt end or stop until it has completed. Thus the specific reason why i coded this little app.
    First, let me start by saying that I fully vouch for this program. I used it, loved it. Would still be using it if it wasn't for the following:

    After using your program, I decided to try out my Steelseries Fang gamepad, and I can program the turbo mode in the advanced mode (not free edit). However, even in free-edit, you can just type keydown x, wait 200 (ms), keyup x, repeat 2 (ms). That's the same procedure the 'advanced' window does. I've since stopped using your app, mainly because the fang doesn't have a delay and the turbo is not interrupted by clicking another button (eg, shift or strafe).

    A couple of issues you should look into:
    1. If a number key is down, continue spamming regardless of whether another key is pressed down the line.
    2. Make sure that the WoW window is active before sending keys, or at least have an option to disable/enable. (This got on my nerves.)


    So, again and in closing, I love this program, but I prefer to use my fang instead. This app definitely deserves +rep all around.

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    easiest way to use this hack with chanelled spells is to make a macro that will not interupt the current spell unless you are done channeling

    #showtooltip Mind Flay
    /cleartarget [noharm]
    /startattack [noexists]
    /cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] !mind flay
    /run UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

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    i'm pretty sure that you are not registering a hardware event when you are sending the keys, and blizzard can easily check to see if a hardware event is triggered before the pressing of the key if they wanted to (at least i believe thye can. Also, this is not 100% safe from keyloggers, if you mean it as a means to prevent yourself from being keylogged instead of this not having a keylogger in it. Keyloggers don't have to be based strictly off of keypresses you know? I'm sure you can easily hook something (including wow.exe) and detect when messages are sent, when it detects it, or when it displays it. An extremely simple example of this would be to simply read the address the WoW stores your username and password into.

    Nothing is 100%. There is always a way =P

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    Updated for patch 4.0.1, blizzard thought they would be slick and change their window frame name in their last patch. So i just had to change a couple minor things in the program so its back up and working. new versions are now available for download.

    *New* I also created a new version that only contains the turbo keys and removed the on screen keyboard portion of it. I also changed the anti afk so that it is no longer known to anyone and no longer announces "Brb".

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    Bumpity bump bump bump

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