Patch 3.1 BOTS USERS READ

[kynox]

any specifics?

Doesn't appear to be, just restructured code. Yet to do any practical tests with the actual scan data.

I wouldn't use any bots, however.

[Sazxo]

The public bots are being taking down as we speak

[KuRIoS]

Doesn't appear to be, just restructured code. Yet to do any practical tests with the actual scan data.

I wouldn't use any bots, however.

not using public bots anyways

[leetdemon]

YOU do not understand how warden works. He is saying that Warden could detect them whenever, because none of the developers even understand Warden.

Unless they have mechanisms in place to detect major changes in Warden, then there is no way they're going to on-the-fly "undo" what Warden is doing.

Piss off.

If warden could have simply knocked glider out they would have done so already and the case would have never went to court. quit spewing useless shit out of your mouth.

The code released today is nothing new the devs have known about it since it hit PTR.

[shortround8]

So is WI, for example safe to use?

[kynox]

If warden could have simply knocked glider out they would have done so already and the case would have never went to court. quit spewing useless shit out of your mouth.

The code released today is nothing new the devs have known about it since it hit PTR.

They could also detect 90% of the hacks out right now, but they choose not to. Ponder that before YOU spew shit out of your mouth, ******.

Also, no. The warden module changed when it went live. Me and Harko have spent all morning reversing it. So before you go claiming shit, maybe you should do some research to backup what you're spewing?

[signalpuppet]

The code released today is nothing new the devs have known about it since it hit PTR.

i agree with kynox (although i don't know if we have to call each other names) the devs only get a idea of what to expect from the PTR

[Cypher]

If warden could have simply knocked glider out they would have done so already and the case would have never went to court. quit spewing useless shit out of your mouth.

The code released today is nothing new the devs have known about it since it hit PTR.

These the same devs that can't reverse WoW well enough to update their bots properly across patches and come and ask us for help, and also the same devs that claim that WOW HAS ADDED A DRIVER OMGOMGOMG!

You're a dipshit. Either provide some ****ing data to back up your claims or shut up and take a seat. You're fighting with the two people here who know by far the most about warden (kynox and harko).

[leetdemon]

I'm not talking about the farmer john bot/wow mimic newbs, im talking about glider. Merc understands warden fully there is no doubt in my mind. who is to say they aren't detecting 90% of the hacks out?

The code he is saying changed has not changed since the PTR i looked at both and its nearly identical. only thing diff is the footprint.

anyway im not here to argue. the one thing we all agree on is "its not safe to bot" and wont be until merc updates glider if they get their stay.

[JoeBiden]

You cant compare that shit, Merc/Hamut Coded a Rootkit, wich is something most of the public bot dev's are un-capable of. So when someone says

"Warden dev's can detect bots if they want" i'm sure they mean the other bots and not glider. (Since they had to take Glider to court because they failed hard software wise.

Sure, a couple banwaves, but only because of mistakes from Merc and Hamut. Wich is totally understandable, humans make mistakes.

[MasterGold]

You cant compare that shit, Merc/Hamut Coded a Rootkit, wich is something most of the public bot dev's are un-capable of. So when someone says

"Warden dev's can detect bots if they want" i'm sure they mean the other bots and not glider. (Since they had to take Glider to court because they failed hard software wise.

Sure, a couple banwaves, but only because of mistakes from Merc and Hamut. Wich is totally understandable, humans make mistakes.

And the banwaves? Human-errors are also the faults of WoW-dev's and I actually believe that at some points the Warden-dev was smarter as any bot-dev at detection because he/they actually succeeded at some points of finding an error or a way to see if the user is botting.

The court-order was just to stop the cat-mouse hunt.

[mandunga]

"The warden developer has proven his quality with the glider detection. He is smart enough to crush mimic, fjb and all those other crappy tools at anytime he want. The mystery is why he doesn't do it."

I think the reason is that the game as it is now, the robot needs to access the new content at a time razoble.
How long does it take to play a level 1 player to play in the new expansions, content, and without aid or robot?

wow this game is infinite and that within the mentality of the players is difficult to digest.

[JoeBiden]

And the banwaves? Human-errors are also the faults of WoW-dev's and I actually believe that at some points the Warden-dev was smarter as any bot-dev at detection because he/they actually succeeded at some points of finding an error or a way to see if the user is botting.

The court-order was just to stop the cat-mouse hunt.

You amy friend are stupid. He didn't find an "Error" f.ex in the may 20 BW, they put detection code WITH THE PATCH not with the warden update. Something hamut and merc never expected they would go that far (To have 9 milion people download glider detection code).. after that banwave they checked every patch down to the last bit.

Yes, there was a banwave 1, 2, 3 times.. but dont forget the 2-3 years of blizzard not beeing able to do shit.

[MasterGold]

You amy friend are stupid. He didn't find an "Error" f.ex in the may 20 BW, they put detection code WITH THE PATCH not with the warden update. Something hamut and merc never expected they would go that far (To have 9 milion people download glider detection code).. after that banwave they checked every patch down to the last bit.

Yes, there was a banwave 1, 2, 3 times.. but dont forget the 2-3 years of blizzard not beeing able to do shit.

So you say the dev's didn't out-smarted them by doing something different and what they didn't expect? How would you call that? And the 9 million players download the warden('s) so why shouldn't they implant it into the client?

Also, the error was that the anti-warden of merc/hamut/lax didn't work on their new detection code. Why do I call this an error? Because the purpose of staying invisible for warden failed and with that the purpose of the anti-warden failed.

If a program that saves logs fails to save logs then there is an error in the program.

[Flipperfin]

Some interesting reads, looks like some people know a lot about warden etc.

I was about to fire up wowmimic, but after reading all this I'm hesitating. Sucks because i really dont want to waste time playing by hand at the moment :P I who thought i had just found myself a really decent bot with good protection >.<