It's official we wont get perma banned

[statho]

Guys if you are a little bit smart you will realise that botters and their accounts will not get banned due to many of them have sold so many accounts to normal players... Think of all the chaos that will happen if the accounts sold to normal players get banned !

[Fadelol]

Guys if you are a little bit smart you will realise that botters and their accounts will not get banned due to many of them have sold so many accounts to normal players... Think of all the chaos that will happen if the accounts sold to normal players get banned !

The error in your chain of thought is that people buying accounts are normal players. They are not. If Niantic wanted to allow this they would find a way to profit on it themselves.

[zerospec0]

Guys if you are a little bit smart you will realise that botters and their accounts will not get banned due to many of them have sold so many accounts to normal players... Think of all the chaos that will happen if the accounts sold to normal players get banned !

Niantic DOES NOT CARE about normal players who bought botted accounts. It is against the TOS you agreed to when making an account to do such things and I doubt they would be able to differentiate an account someone bought so its all getting banned regardless.

I repeat, they don't care that someone bought an account, that person should have known it was wrong and Niantic has it clearly stated in their terms of service.

[nosnoop]

Guys if you are a little bit smart you will realise that botters and their accounts will not get banned due to many of them have sold so many accounts to normal players... Think of all the chaos that will happen if the accounts sold to normal players get banned !

Do you even know that selling and buying accounts are against Niantic Terms of Service?

They have the right to ban all those traded accounts! So don't think for a minute that they would worry about the welfare of those players who bought a botted accounts.

[Turfy]

People have a weird interpretation of "official".

[111111]

Op think he won't get perma banned. Proceeds to make 100 backup accounts.

[NullGen54]

Niantic DOES NOT CARE about normal players who bought botted accounts. It is against the TOS you agreed to when making an account to do such things and I doubt they would be able to differentiate an account someone bought so its all getting banned regardless.

I repeat, they don't care that someone bought an account, that person should have known it was wrong and Niantic has it clearly stated in their terms of service.

What you are saying is not factual at all, if they didn't care they wouldn't be sending Cease and Desist orders to sites like Pokevision. Just because they aren't doing anything about it right now doesn't mean they can't or won't do it.

Also, you're wrong about them not being able to tell the difference between an account that's botted and one that isn't. For one thing, all they have to do is check logs of GPS locations players have been in (yes they have access to this kind of information, every mobile game with GPS does) and from there they can clearly see that your account has been jumping from one end of the world to the next. They could also use in-game checks to calculate how fast players are leveling, gaining items or catching Pokemon and simply ban them depending on how unrealistic their EXP rate is.

Then there's also the easiest method, which is simply checking the IPs logged with the account. (mobile and desktop IP will be different, so that's a dead giveaway)

PokemonGO is still a fairly new game and just like any other game, the company will start to fight back once they get their shit together. I'm not saying that all of our accounts will get banned instantly if at all, but saying that it won't happen is complete ignorance, please stop spreading these statements as if it was announced by Niantic themselves.

[larns576]

Everyone is so touchy regarding this subject and are resorting to name calling and insults. It's obvious people have their own opinions and no one's is more right than another's (at least until Niantic'so decisions become public). It's all speculation and opinions at this point and no one person is more right than someone else.

Those that believe that only their opinion is the correct one must be related to Hitler. There. My insult is in too so I must be correct.

[Fadelol]

Everyone is so touchy regarding this subject and are resorting to name calling and insults. It's obvious people have their own opinions and no one's is more right than another's (at least until Niantic'so decisions become public). It's all speculation and opinions at this point and no one person is more right than someone else.

Those that believe that only their opinion is the correct one must be related to Hitler. There. My insult is in too so I must be correct.

So let's at least agree that regardless of what you think will happen, proceed with caution and don't bot on an account that might matter to you (i.e. one that you spent a lot of time playing legitimately on). Because let's also agree the data Niantic will have that could identify you as a bot can include among other things;

• Catching patterns
• Constant catching location (always exact same coordinates as the Pokémon)
• Constant altitude (10 on most bots per default)
• Constant routes
• Device information
• Pattern and rate in which data/events are being sent and requested from the server (i.e. DelayBetweenPlayerActions and similar faster than should be able through the client)
• Teleportation (snipes)
• Frequent auto unbanning a softban
• Experience rate
• Mass evolution rate
• Average walk speed

Let's also agree some of these things can be avoided through tweaking settings. But most of them come with unrealistic values from the get go with most bots. For example, most are set to 10 or 15 km/h default walking speed. The average for a human is 5. However, some of the most important such as constant altitude, catching location, pattern and rate in how data is sent, constant routes and device information are not fixable in the current generation of bots.

And let's be clear, I have no hidden agenda behind this than wanting people to be careful losing something they have invested time in and providing some nuance to the bandwagon that somehow wants to believe this will go unnoticed or unpunished. Like I have been saying. I am also botting 30-40 accounts. But not the one I am playing as my main, because there is just too much data available for Niantic to use to identify an account that has been botted on.

[MrMooo]

Also lets not forget another one of the more obvious indicators.

Play time, who the fk is playing pokemon go for 24 hours a day. Because that is how long our bots are running for right?

[Temperate]

CBA If they do ban, well just make more efficient bots with better anti-ban features. Once they release more features, well exploit them as well. ****ing bring it on, I'm excited for a ban wave. Cat and mouse so to speak.

[sdslolz]

If you guys pay attention, Niantic is honestly so confused as to what their doing. I think they have bigger fish to fry then hackers right now, the truth is that hacking isn't really effecting any major portion of the game (I don't consider Gyms a "major portion"). I don't see them giving a shit until 1v1/2v2 battling/trading happens.

Their too busy pissing off the community by removing the three-step tracker, on top of PokeSnipers. They've already lost a huge portion of their playerbase, doubt they'll turn on the ban switch anytime soon, since some hackers are actually making them money (buying Coins), and the playerbase is mass requesting refunds.

That being said they more than likely have logs, who knows how long. Externally they look like a mess on social media, can only imagine how bad it is internally.

I'd argue they probably banned on Ingress 'cause they had no other big issues.

Theirs a good chance that if you stop botting in a few days and never touch the game for a long time your account will survive.

[larns576]

I definitely agree that you should take caution when botting if the account may be important to you.

I'm sure Niantic is well aware of botting and sniping. They probably already had numerous meetings on how to deal with it and they will deal with it; Whether it be banning or some other method that will nullify all the the cheaters' works. They have already begun anti cheating efforts by closing down Pokevision and other similar sites.

Once the cheating/botting has been successfully terminated, there will definitely be a little surprise for the botters.

Personally, I think they will not ban, but will attempt to nullify all the benefits gained through botting (which effectively does the same thing) and hopefully turn cheaters into paying customers. Two birds with one stone! But if they aren't creative enough, then they will probably just bring the ban hammer and start swinging. That could get ugly.