Vengeance of the Void Pages 2-15 Leaked! (Image Heavy)

[KuRIoS]

The fact is they didn't "just use the old shit". They went back and redid basically an entire expansion on TOP of creating new areas and quests.
I'm completely baffled at everyone complaining about "reused" content when they went back and changed entire zones and updated quests.

Edit: Oh and thanks for the -15 rep. That's real mature.

first the rep: I thought it would go well with your comments in this thread that are overwhelming mature like "Facepalming at this "leak" so hard. It's as fake as Pamela Andersons tits." so yeah c[_] you deserved the -15 imho..
Old shit: Well that is your opinion and as I have already stated, I feel differently upon that subject. However I think that speculations/leaks/rumours on new and upcoming expansions are fun and I can see myself commenting and discussing them even if they are true or not - instead of garbage comments that are not at all constructive like "Facepalming at this "leak" so hard. It's as fake as Pamela Andersons tits." and "Don't have a facepalm big enough for that statement."

[Aldun]

Even though it's fun to read, any lore-fan knows it's fake.. There are just too many things that wouldn't fit or be plain wrong in there.

[Baaja]

Can we atleast have a discussion on what is so fake about it? I actually thought it was very well written and that it coincides with how Blizzard have done things in the past. Out of all of the pages uploaded here I only found one thing that baffled me, Baine Bloodhoof gets the killing blow on Deathwing? That to me was an eyebrow raising moment. Other than that I would like to play in an expansion like this since the Burning Crusade was an epic expansion itself.

[spoutnik]

Can we atleast have a discussion on what is so fake about it? I actually thought it was very well written and that it coincides with how Blizzard have done things in the past. Out of all of the pages uploaded here I only found one thing that baffled me, Baine Bloodhoof gets the killing blow on Deathwing? That to me was an eyebrow raising moment. Other than that I would like to play in an expansion like this since the Burning Crusade was an epic expansion itself.

Forsaken paladins.

'nuff said.

[#ClumsyWizard]

I started laughing when I read Blood Elf Druids... No thank you.

Geez.. my chest hurts need ot stop laghings.

[xf11]

Forsaken paladins.

'nuff said.

honestly if tauren paladins can exist, you can twist around anything to get something to be a paladin

undead paladins does make some sense though, considering the light causes the undead to be in horrible pain when used, maybe they in a way want to punish themselves in that matter for what slyvanis and the forsaken have done previously. Also (besides the undead paladin who allows the undead to become paladins) Sir Zeliek is another example of a undead paladin who has existed. Blood elf druids are a bit more tricky to find in warcraft (considering there is only one, in the bontanica, haha), but from what we have seen in the twilight's hammer and gilneas before the worgen curse, humans are capable of becoming both druids and shamans, with that logic in mind (and considering blood elves are related to night elves after all), a blood elf druid is not too hard to imagine as a class combination.

night elf warlocks im having a hard time figuring out why. They hate demons with a passion @_@, but with the etherals strolling about with the Draenei (and making them into warlocks), and illidan (who used demonic power) becoming a much more redeemable character in the eyes of many, they could have more respect for warlocks as demon fighters more than demon users.

[Frostfire55]

Can we atleast have a discussion on what is so fake about it?

Sure we can:

1.The formatting and grammar from page 1 has changed DRASTICALLY on page 2 through 15. The abbreviations have stopped outright which seems a little....strange.
2.The removal of Netherstorm for a goblin favored zone to sell Nethergen gas is an odd idea. Why not just use the goblin town already there?
3.Secretive on the Sylvanas parts yet has no problem further on revealing huge bits of information
4.Chain of Dimensions. Blizzard would never make a heavy timing and platforming zone when people can't even make it over the platforming in BFD and the old one in WC
5.The fact that whole planets are the leveling zones and not just sections are boggling.
6.Anchor Hold and Warped Plains will probably be way too heavy to pull off. Blizzard learned the troubles from BGs like SotA and IoC.
7.As for the demon hunter, the part about designing the class would take away from the zones. Yeah, no. Zones and classes are worked on by two different design teams.
8.The question about draenei being in the spotlight is odd. They really haven't had much story outside of Valen as of late and that was little to no story at all.
9.The whole 'similar to starcraft' question. Odd that this has been a talking point against the first page is now answered in this document. Proof that it was recently forged? Maybe
10. I forgot to mention this. Again, Twisting Nether as a zone. 'You know guys, let's just make space a zone. We cool?'
11. A'dal being a major villain is...just very cliche for blizzard. Hero turned villain...for the hundredth time.
12. The lag issue and hub city seems to be a very weird issue considering Org and SW are still very laggy to most players.
13. Why would the blood elves allow for Naga to have a part of their city? That makes no sense.
14. Baine Bloodhoof killing Deathwing. Yeahhhhh.
15. C'thun was not slain but subdued.

We'll just start with that for right now.

[xf11]

I sort of feel like a butt defending it, since im not 100% how authentic it is, but someone has to play D I suppose

1.I reckon, I didn't really pay attention to grammar though
2.Could just be area 52 moved to a different location instead of a new town altogether, but on the other hand there is a area mentioned in page one as the "x-13 crash site", the x-13 was the ship they built in area 52 to explore the twisting nether. Area 52 might have outlived it's use
3.Assuming we'll still be playing cata in october, some of sylvanas actions may have not fully been played out yet, so maybe there just trying not to spoil the whole deal right then and there
4.Well I mean, not all of us are platform challenged, haha
5.We could only be questing in a small area of the planet, like near something important, instead of the WHOLE planet
6.I don't think either area mentioned using vehicles or anything of that, anchor hold may use boats, but I don't think we would have boat on boat combat
7.Actually when blizzard was working on the firelands, they actually used more than one team to make the area, such as cross working with level designers and artists, I could see at least some of the content in the game being somewhat collaberated (Source: Blizzard Insider #39 -- Art of the Firelands - World of Warcraft)
8.I am a bit confused about that as well, but maybe making Velen a more central character in the expansion may help explain more about the draenei
9.Possible, votv is not a bad name though for the expansion
10.Well, why not? Like for us irl, it really is sort of the final frontier aint it? There is a lot to be discovered in that kind of area, a great place for new lore and otherwise.
11.Well he isn't entirety our enemy, the pages sort of explain that a'dal and the void's motives are unknown, and at times they try to help us.
12.They look like they want to make silvermoon city and the exodar just as good of cities as org and sw, that is a good idea if you can get people to go to the other city, which is a hard thing to do
13.New allies need a home somewhere I reckon :>, but it looks like we initially begin fighting naga just mostly based around that there naga, but I think we eventually figure out that they were actually just trying to keep themselves away from being killed by the old gods many minions, but here's a interesting question, why would the old gods attack the naga in the first place? They must of done something against them to provoke an attack, what could that be?
14. Baine may end up being a much more important character later in cata, we have no way of knowing or disproving the claim entirely, also fighting deathwing in the blasted lands seems like a reasonable area to fight him, and the kirin'tor keeping the dark portal from causing all hell sounds like something they would obviously do
15.One of these days were gonna need to figure out how to kill an old god, maybe if we fight him a second time, we actually find a way to kill an old god for the first time. Or we weaken him so badly that the Qiraj become truly leaderless and start having civil war with each other until they destroy themselves

[Cannibalman]

THe document is not fake, at least I dont think its fake
As for the header, well Santa Monica is the HQ of Activision Blizzard
Activision | Blizzard
Says it right their.
MMo-champion does not know shit, they said the header is fake, thier wrong,
WoWinsider has no internal links in Blizzard, they are not affiliated with Blizzard at all. If WoWWiki or Curse said that, then id believe them, their trusted fan sites.
Also yea a lot of shit is going on, but I think its true and it will definitly be released at Blizzcon
At the same time it matches up to when they annoucned Cataclysm. About 8 months into Wrath, we were in late Ulduar when Cata was aannounced so it matches an announcment at Blizzcon.
overall intersting read, if this is fake, they must have put in a lot of effort, but it will give me lols if blizz says somethign completely different.

[Frostfire55]

THe document is not fake, at least I dont think its fake
As for the header, well Santa Monica is the HQ of Activision Blizzard
Activision | Blizzard

That link that you have there is a double-edged sword. You could also say that the link proves that the logo at the top of the letter is false because the one in the memo is different from the one on the site and press releases. Also, as for the location. That's the location of Activision and the office that Blizzard deals with inside of Activision. That is not where the game is developed, which is the campus in Irvine, CA.

-EDIT-

I mean, if you can find me an instance outside of this memo where Blizzard goes by that logo, then I'll stand down on that point.

-EDIT2-

The address in the letter is for Activision and has been used as a center point for ALL Activision companies. However, in this case, an internal memo would probably be sent from inside Blizzard Entertainment, Inc which is a subsidiary of Activision Blizzard. All in all, if it was a company memo, it would probably be stamped with Blizzard Entertainment, Inc, not Activision Blizzard.

[eSko]

Fake fake is fake.
Alliance getting badass Ethereals while Horde getting some stupid snakes? Simply not possible.
Plus, Ashes of Al'ar farmers' whines incoming... Like I said, not possible..
AND, why the **** would be Santa Monica address in the header... Developers (for who the paper was supposedly written) work for Blizzard, not for Activision Blizzard.

If true, which I highly doubt, it will be end of the WoW for me. TBC was the best era of WoW (at least for me) and destroying Outland (literally) is too much for me.

[Parog]

Aphel, keep on writing about this.

Love you bro! You know the lore more than 99% of the people out there and you predicted the right things for Cata.

I don't follow drama, but damn did I ever lol hard over that boubouille idiot getting banned from wowhead IRC. Once the next expansion comes out, you be sure I'll be posting all over the place to rub it in people's face if any of this is true.

To other people, such as boubouille, who are getting so butt hurt over this that they can't just sit in their chair and enjoy the read, yeah it's speculations. Everything always is until the actual source confirms/denies it. Get over yourselves. I hope all of this is true, for the sake of how much trolling will ensue.

If true, which I highly doubt, it will be end of the WoW for me. TBC was the best era of WoW (at least for me) and destroying Outland (literally) is too much for me.

*cough* Vanilla was "the best" for most of the subscribers, yet it didn't stop them from destroying azeroth. *cough*

[Casadi]

Not gonna take a side on this... but it's an awesome read

[Baaja]

Parog is so right. Nobody knows how Blizzard thinks, and we have many times gotten thrown off with their decisions. Last time it was Tauren Paladins, I heard so many people whine about that and there were several threads about it. But people forget to remember that the Universe of Warcraft is Blizzard's Universe. When they find a little crack in a door around some lore, they will push a foot in and then start to add more to it. With that they can proceed and get away with it. I fail to understand the fail which is this "leak". I for one would look forward to something like this, but right now it's only speculations. Fun read, nonetheless.

[2dgreengiant]

I hate outland, it's my least fav place in wow so i hope this is somewhat wrong in terms of places :P e.g. cant they remake Northrend or something haha