Kurious resetted my REP

[KuRIoS]

So guys after all I contributed here all my reputation gets resetted by Kur...I even donated to this site aswell....that being said I am officially done here..You guys can still check out my youtube if you'd like...=/

-Omo

OMO Your rep was reset because I didnt want you and your sidekick "omgwtfowned" spamming the bawx and flaming others you could have handled it maturely and pm'ed me if you had an issue - though you two decided to spam the shoutbawx and flame the site and me. The shoutbawx ban system is somewhat flawed so the only way to make sure that you didnt reappear in the bawx when I was asleep was to reset ur reputation. (It is easily given back if you should decide to behave)

Neh man I wont be back, Kurious wants to sit here and **** with RAoV for no damn reason whatsoever...recieving random infractions from him and we decided to call him out..if he wants to lost a member who actually contributed something then **** him...I contributed for the people not to get played with by a child...

Random infracions: YOU have received one infraction, this was "Reason: if you dont show HOW the exploits are done dont post in exploits. Punishment: 0 InfractionPoints"
You posted a video about exploits in exploits section, though you didnt post how to do any of them, so it didnt belong there. I had told various RaoV members on other occations as well, without giving infractions, but when it happens repeatedly then I need to give a InfractionWARNING because it seemed to us that you simply didnt understand it otherwise.

I like how every post on MMowned/Ownedcore ever created had always a negative comment by Kurios maybe he has some explaining to do him self considering I got shot down to 0 rep and I was not apart of what happened earlier.

Only times I have created negative comments is when you break the rules or did not understand something that was said many times, like how we do not remove a post that is claimed as a repost WITHOUT a valid OwnedCore link. You posted a YouTube link and that does not justify as a repost, OMO posted the correct link and I removed the thread since it was a tweak of an exploit without giving credit and added 25 reputation to VotuU. You were indeed a part of it, or someone using ur account was - You spammed over 35 lines after eachother into the bawx with :

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If that wasnt you, then perhaps you should look at your "friends" since they are responsible for the actions taken on your account. Feel free to PM me if it wasnt you and you wish to have it reversed.

Sorry to see y'all go because of some dick admin, I was about to donate $100 to this site since I love it, but after seeing this it shows how immature members of the staff can be (not flaming anyone except KuRIos), so KuR, feel free to reset my rep, ban me, whatever, I don't even care anymore, like I said, my hard earned money will be going elsewhere now.
-Phantom

Sorry, but you are a fool. You flame me because of two people who complain without listening to the other side of the story. I am so happy that you are not the president of the USA and had talked to Gaddafi, Osama or Hussein before talking to your advisors. Flame me all you want, but I do not feel it is justified.

I would like to so say that your way off point with numbers 2,3,4. So explain?

2.) claiming credit where they should not claim(Seriously?! "please take down your thread because we are working on the same thing?!" hell no the posters gets his credit and rep for posting. not you. <- This was done by shorstuff910mc in the barberchair exploit thread. Your GODMODE exploit was just a tweak of that and it was even mentioned in the thread. A thread where Shorstuff910mc said "Please do not discuss this exploit any more" and a short time later he posted a video of "god mode" WITHOUT giving the guys in the thread credits. AS I explained to shorstuff910mc on skype, all you guys would have to do in order for your thread to stay up was adding credits and get the original founder to send me a pm that it was ok.
3.) requesting others to remove their threads so they can later release the same thing for their own gain with a "twist" usually added. <- same as above
4.) dedicated forum member for rep abusing while your main accounts still garner rep as well (usually a very big flag btw) <- I cannot say anything here - Though it have been discussed if it should be okay for you guys to repeatedly rep eachother, but we agreed that in staff that it should be okay for now.

That should be it, I have explained some of the things and I hope that is satisfying. If you feel like I have treated you wrong then contact me in a PM and we will talk it over - if you can be polite. Your recent actions, or sorry, the actions by shorstuff910mc shows pretty much what I have been dealing with from him specially through the last 3 months where I would be flamed by him every time a staffmember did something to a thread from a member in RaoV. After a given time you have to say stop.
I am sorry if you feel like YOU have been treated different than other members, because you have and that is my fault. You were given a PM instead of infractions, when you posted a thread in the wrong section even after the 3rd time - I am sorry that I have been so HORRIBLE to give you guys a longer leash than other members, since you show now that you did not deserve it - at all!.

[Unholyshaman]

I think now is the time that members of RaoV and any others involved take the opportunity to show that they are mature. Contact KuRIoS in private and discuss the issue in a calm and open manner. If everyone just takes a step back and deals with it like adults then I'm sure KuRIoS and the rest of the staff can come to some sort of agreement or compromise with you.

However with that said keep in mind access to OwnerCore is a privledge, not a right, and regardless of what you may think, the admins are the law and their decision is final. Complaining and swearing and arguing with them in a childish manner will not improve your situation.

Good luck on getting the issue resolved.

[#ClumsyWizard]

My input, and I originally PM'd this to KuR. Since I am not changing the body of the message below all "you" usuage is directed towards KuRIoS.

I know that the RAoV members are a key group in the exploitation community, but if they have to act immature to get what they want then they don't deserve to be on this forum no more than anyone else that flames.

The fact that YOU put up with Shortstuff's flaming for a few months is rather disturbing. Even though they're apart of a well known exploit group I would think that you as an admin would give them the same punishment as anyone else.

I personally want to know why they got a special leash instead of a normal one like the rest of us members.

On a personal opinion and thinking as a moderator I would personally keep their rep as is at the moment. Reset and not risen back to where they were prior to being reset. If they have to flame and treat this forum like an anarchy place to freely flame and harass members, administrators for that matter, then I personally say that they don't belong here.

To be honest, if I had moderator powers I know I would be crossing lines into abuse, but I would ban every RAoV member for even thinking they're much more special than any other member. Just saying, but thats just my opinion.

I'm just a contributor, and not a moderator though.

[KuRIoS]

My input, and I originally PM'd this to KuR. Since I am not changing the body of the message below all "you" usuage is directed towards KuRIoS.

I know that the RAoV members are a key group in the exploitation community, but if they have to act immature to get what they want then they don't deserve to be on this forum no more than anyone else that flames.

The fact that YOU put up with Shortstuff's flaming for a few months is rather disturbing. Even though they're apart of a well known exploit group I would think that you as an admin would give them the same punishment as anyone else.

It was non 24/7 flaming, but flaming, complaining and whining every time something was done to one of their threads. I did have many great talks with him as well. The fact that he ALWAYS came the day after and said "Sorry I was a bit heated when talking to you, hopefully you can forgive me" made me forget it and live with it rather than ban.. They are a group, but not a keygroup but they do put a lot of work and thought into their threads and that is amazing!!!

I personally want to know why they got a special leash instead of a normal one like the rest of us members.

When it is clear to me that someone spends a lot of time on their posts (like long, well formatted guides) then I cut them some slack when it comes to complains if things are done to their posts. It is a natural thing to become a bit upset, when you have "fostered" a video and you are proud of it only to see that it is posted in the wrong section or is a repost and therefore deleted. I do the same to members where I get the same feeling that a lot of time is put into the stuff they contribute. Maybe I shouldnt do that, but I feel it is the correct way to go about it.

On a personal opinion and thinking as a moderator I would personally keep their rep as is at the moment. Reset and not risen back to where they were prior to being reset. If they have to flame and treat this forum like an anarchy place to freely flame and harass members, administrators for that matter, then I personally say that they don't belong here.

I highly doubt that omgwtfowned and VoTuUS have heard anything but shorstuff910mc's story and we have all seen how mature he is, so IF they wish to talk it over in a calm and proper tone then everything is possible. Their rep is only taken temporarily because of me not wanting them to spam the shoutbawx.

To be honest, if I had moderator powers I know I would be crossing lines into abuse, but I would ban every RAoV member for even thinking they're much more special than any other member. Just saying, but thats just my opinion.

I'm just a contributor, and not a moderator though.

Hehe, they should be happy that you are not a moderator then - Everyone can have a second chance if they can keep their calm and be polite.

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@OMGWTFOWNED - I was a bit puzzled about the "Hateful and negative comments" that you say I give..
I have gone through all of my comments left in since mid July and this is what I have found in regards to RAOV - the members that I know since You are so many and I dont keep track.
So let us see what is so awful in my replies towards RaoV, I will mark them with numbers so you can comment on them easier if you want a further explanaiton.

#1

I am already back it with a new account a fan donated..It's upsetting that the VoTu Guild is done for...Blizz wont transfer the guild back over..=/ But I still will be releasing RAoV videos and some VoTu videos aswell...I have a video being edited right now.

Sad that you should lose your account, but as i told Shorstuff, I have accounts u can have if u get banned again Not fully updated, but you will save some $$$

What was this god mode event about? What is the exploit you wanted to do?

Barberchair exploit - you couldnt be harmed, or do anything, but you could be seen, so you could go to opposite factions' city

#2

Ì think it is because that people usually think of NoClip as enabling you to go through what your heart

Ì think it is because that people usually think of NoClip as enabling you to go through what your heart desires.. Eventho the term is correct for this too.

Sounds good that you have found another thing for this.. (cant rep you straight away again)

#3 Short explanation: I felt the need to be more harsh in my language and end it with a joke to get it remembered. 75% might be exaggerating, but it was not long after GodMode exploit, so I had it fresh in memory. Sorry if that offended you, but that is how i felt at the given time(AS I EXPLAINED TO SHORSTUFF910MC on Skype before he started flaming me...again)

Omgwtfowned[/B]]This is a repost from a RAoV Video.We found this way back in patch 4.0.3
WoW Exploits 4.0.3 - RAoV - YouTube Look at 7:22

also 75% of what I have seen from RAoV are reposts, one way or another.. Though if you wanna yell repost here, the provide us with a OwnedCore Link.. we dont really care what you have posted on youtube or midgetpr0n.com

#4 I could swear that I have seen a FP exploit from you before, hence why I asked.. IF I was certain then it would be removed as a repost

Havent you released the flight path exploit before?

#5 This may sound negative, but it is really not. Bans are to be expected when you do stuff like this - unfortunately. An hour later I offered shorstuff910mc 8 wow accounts for them to use/have.

Snyth and Omo got banned :0

Big surprise... not... and cant say it wasnt deserved same as when we did mass GM Island events..

I just pushed myself into making a lvl 10 hordie for the first time, just for this... and now it looks like the big guys are banned? damn, you'd think blizz would have better things to do, like stop some of the gold spammers, but no, let's stop people from having fun :S

edit: and it looks like I'm kinda retarded

From exploiting the game? It is not like it is hard for them to see all the crap/good stuff, that these guys are doing.. people have grown to find exploiters to be more annoying than goldspammers..

This was it?!?!? I honestly can NOT see how you are considering those replies as negative or hatefull against you. MAYBE that is just me tho.

[#ClumsyWizard]

It was non 24/7 flaming, but flaming, complaining and whining every time something was done to one of their threads. I did have many great talks with him as well. The fact that he ALWAYS came the day after and said "Sorry I was a bit heated when talking to you, hopefully you can forgive me" made me forget it and live with it rather than ban.. They are a group, but not a keygroup but they do put a lot of work and thought into their threads and that is amazing!!!


When it is clear to me that someone spends a lot of time on their posts (like long, well formatted guides) then I cut them some slack when it comes to complains if things are done to their posts. It is a natural thing to become a bit upset, when you have "fostered" a video and you are proud of it only to see that it is posted in the wrong section or is a repost and therefore deleted. I do the same to members where I get the same feeling that a lot of time is put into the stuff they contribute. Maybe I shouldnt do that, but I feel it is the correct way to go about it.


I highly doubt that omgwtfowned and VoTuUS have heard anything but shorstuff910mc's story and we have all seen how mature he is, so IF they wish to talk it over in a calm and proper tone then everything is possible. Their rep is only taken temporarily because of me not wanting them to spam the shoutbawx.


Hehe, they should be happy that you are not a moderator then - Everyone can have a second chance if they can keep their calm and be polite.

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@OMGWTFOWNED - I was a bit puzzled about the "Hateful and negative comments" that you say I give..
I have gone through all of my comments left in since mid July and this is what I have found in regards to RAOV - the members that I know since You are so many and I dont keep track.
So let us see what is so awful in my replies towards RaoV, I will mark them with numbers so you can comment on them easier if you want a further explanaiton.

#1


#2


#3 Short explanation: I felt the need to be more harsh in my language and end it with a joke to get it remembered. 75% might be exaggerating, but it was not long after GodMode exploit, so I had it fresh in memory. Sorry if that offended you, but that is how i felt at the given time(AS I EXPLAINED TO SHORSTUFF910MC on Skype before he started flaming me...again)


#4 I could swear that I have seen a FP exploit from you before, hence why I asked.. IF I was certain then it would be removed as a repost


#5 This may sound negative, but it is really not. Bans are to be expected when you do stuff like this - unfortunately. An hour later I offered shorstuff910mc 8 wow accounts for them to use/have.



This was it?!?!? I honestly can NOT see how you are considering those replies as negative or hatefull against you. MAYBE that is just me tho.

Ah, alright. I was misconstrewding a few things.

I'll post a better response later. I need a bit of sleep due to beign in the US and I've yet to go to sleep by the time of this post, but I do think that people need second chances, but when it comes to flaming moderators let alone admins thats when I start to draw lines.

Ofcourse I wouldn't ban anyone without the thoughts of the other moderators first, and only if the offendee was breaking major rules.

[MyWay86]

Dude you are just an exploiter what do you think you can flood the shoutbox whenever you want for whatever reason you have?
Some people here think they are the middle of the universe because achived something in this pixel world.

[VoTuUS]

Dude you are just an exploiter what do you think you can flood the shoutbox whenever you want for whatever reason you have?
Some people here think they are the middle of the universe because achived something in this pixel world.

Um I dont think I can flood the shoutbox whenever I want..but when someone takes all I worked for on this site, I will complain..

[JD]

VoTuUS, please just listen to what KuR is saying.

OMO Your rep was reset because I didnt want you and your sidekick "omgwtfowned" spamming the bawx and flaming others you could have handled it maturely and pm'ed me if you had an issue - though you two decided to spam the shoutbawx and flame the site and me. The shoutbawx ban system is somewhat flawed so the only way to make sure that you didnt reappear in the bawx when I was asleep was to reset ur reputation. (It is easily given back if you should decide to behave)

Your reputation is not lost for ever, it's easily returned to you if you just act like an adult. I know it sucks to lose all your rep, but you can get it back.

MOVING this thread to the correct section btw.

[TehVoyager]

Wow saw the title and thought "wait wut"

then read the thread

gotta say ive lost a bit of respect for you guys tripping **** in public like this.

did you make any reasoned attempts to deal with this via PM first?

the Drama in this thread is absolutely nuts. why hasnt this been deleted yet? mods, dont let members blow up like this on your forum. kill this thread and PM the people involved that if they want to deal with the issues to talk to you privately.

just my 2c.

[hp94]

gotta say ive lost a bit of respect for you guys tripping **** in public like this.

the Drama in this thread is absolutely nuts.

It's sad to see RAoV take such a dive, all I remember is being around for all the 'highs'; the good times. Knowing what it's like when good things are happening and everyone's happy, just to see a thread like this, really makes me wonder about human nature, and how fast someone can turn themselves around.

[BaddyMcBad]

Damn they're acting like children about this. Always seemed to have a huge ego problem.

[wowgamerxx119]

ive been very entertained he realized how it just did not make any sense to keep that up and im with you there trax they are being little drama queens Kur has not done anything negative they need to be treated the same as everyone else and they dont get special treatment

[hp94]

Damn they're acting like children about this. Always seemed to have a huge ego problem.

Actually, I believe that pretty much everyone IS a minor in RAoV. I mean, I was a minor when I was in RAoV (Just not any more - A minor, or part of RAoV). I actually regret some of the things I've done involving RAoV, and I live with a motto of 'No Regrets' =(.

[Nyarly]

First: http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-exploration/330014-explorers-league-old-world-ep5-western-plaquelands.html
Second : http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-exploration/331129-wow-exploration-old-hillsbrad-foothills.html
Third : Barbershop exploit + http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...ml#post2100360

Yeah, with this kind of attitude (reposting and refusing to give credit where it belongs), i don't know if you're that much indispensable here.




Oh and rep doesn't give you money, women or drugs. You should be able to overcome all this.

[#ClumsyWizard]

This thread actually shows you how acting in an immature way can ruin how people view you on a forum, or on the internet.

I don't mind that the RAoV team is staying, it's just that I'll never look at them the same way again.